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作者: elan7e 時間: 2008-12-24 23:42 標題: 64 bit VS 32bit

可否用簡单的語言(不要太專業,太高深),解釋一下Vista 64 bit 和 32 bit的分別,那一個比較好?
曾經到過一些英文網站，可能用詞太專門,看不明白。
謝謝ｏ

作者: Hyde 時間: 2008-12-25 02:06

if u don't use more then 4GB of ram then get 32bit

作者: chobit 時間: 2008-12-25 04:00 標題: stay with 32bit

potentially 64bit can allow some speed improvements. However, 64Bit is still too new, and many hardware software still can't take full advantage. In fact you may run into lots of incompatibility problems....! So, unless you are running some professional software which can take advantage of 64bit and needed more than 4GB, etc..!

IMHO, stay with 32bit.

作者: ah_fu 時間: 2008-12-25 05:49

The most important part is whether you will have drivers for your hardware. Otherwise, you'll be stuck with things that don't work.

作者: elan7e 時間: 2008-12-25 07:27

首先多謝各位,如果用32bit,假如(只是假如)expand the ram to 4 GB or more,有無用？有無意思？因為在Staples問過一位sales personel,他說如果用32 bit, it is meaningless to expand the total ram more than 3 GB.他說了些原因,可能我的水平太低,不明白ｏ可否解釋一下？
多謝。

作者: pigheadbone 時間: 2008-12-25 07:53

If you're using 32-bit, then you can't use more than 4GB RAM. Even if you you buy 10GB RAM, you would still be using the first 4 only.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2008-12-25 10:11

go for 64 bit, at this day and age.

作者: tsawwassen 時間: 2008-12-25 12:05

Hi, I have a question needs help. If My computer's mother board only support 2 gb ram, and can I put in 4 gb ram then what will happen? Could it run with 4 gb or it will just operate with 2 gb and the excess 2 gb will be useless? Please help. I just ordered another 4 gb ram from NCIX and find out my mother board only suppert 2 gb. How dump I am.

作者: beaver 時間: 2008-12-25 15:13 標題: more than 4G

Vista 32位版本在我们的PC机上能支持多大的内存呢？

答案是3,120 MB，也就是3.05G！

原因很简单，因为考虑到PCI设备（例如显卡，声卡，网卡等等）占用的寻址范围，Vista32保留了接近1G的内存地址空间来保证这些设备的兼容性（虽然你的机器可能很多地址未被使用），也就是说，无论你看到系统属性里是3G还是3.5G，实际可以使用的内存都是3G ! 而且微软给家庭用户给出的建议是要使用4G或以上的内存，必须使用Windows2003或者XP和Vista的64位版本。（MSDN原文见 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid&id=929605）

另外需要注意一点的是，安装3G 内存后不表示就可以使用这厶多，因为32位windows默认应用程序只能使用2G内存，剩下的都保留给系统内核了，因此还需要添加启动参数 ∶"bcdedit /set increaseuserva 3072" 来使得windows把2G以上的内存也分配给应用程序！

OK,说了这厶多，大家应该很清楚了，不要因为内存便宜或钱多就上4G，因为总会浪费1G的（当然要不在乎这点钱我也没办法），像我就加了1G，一共3G，一点也不浪费多好啊呵呵（唯一缺点是3G的DDR2无法实现双通道）

欢迎转载，但请著名本文请作者syinter，请珍惜本人的辛苦劳动~谢谢

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2008-12-25 21:14

How much beyond 3GB RAM the system could recognize in a 32bit OS is determine by the motherboard. Newer chipset is able to to auto disable Executing Bits and enable PAE (Physical Address Extension) to allow the OS to recognize more than the physical limit.

If you have 4GB+ or more memory, 64bit OS is definitely a must, otherwise anything over 3.5GB will be useless. Most new package system comes with Vista 64 already due to 4GB of RAM.

So far, Vista 64 has been good, only that some major applications such as Simply Accounting 2008 still refuse to work with it.

Philip

作者: Hyde 時間: 2008-12-25 21:50

Vista 64 bit has hardly any compatibility issue with hardware released in the past 5 years.

the only problem I had with x64 was that Adobe Master Suite CS3 had problem installing to it. should be fixed with CS4.

[ 本帖最後由 Hyde 於 2008-12-25 22:57 編輯 ]

作者: chobit 時間: 2008-12-25 22:55

WOrking as a full time IT Network Administrator, my suggestion is stick with 32bit OS unless you 3GB+ RAM is not sufficient, unless you enjoy troubleshoot computers.  Personally, I am running Vista 64bit on my main computer, but then I use it mostly for x64 Photoshop CS4, and some basic video editing (I am finally playing with 1080p video).

There any compatibility issues, not so much hardware, some plugins for IE either 32bit or 64bit still aren't running properly, and you will need firefox as an alternative.  And yes, there are other issues as well.  I don't quite care since I own 3 relatively fast computers, and only this one is running on Vista64.  I also have full access to my work's terminal server, and my work workstation most of the time.

If you like to have some decent bootup speed, I am currently using SSD as my main Boot Drive, all profile and temp is on my D: regular HD, and my main storage is on a RAID5 setup.  (50+/MB/s transfer speed)

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2008-12-25 10:11 發表
go for 64 bit, at this day and age.

作者: Hyde 時間: 2008-12-26 03:08

for normal use, there is no need to get more then 4GB of ram. and ram is cheap, so lose 500 something MB is not a big deal.

作者: maldini 時間: 2008-12-26 03:14

原帖由 chobit 於 2008-12-25 23:55 發表
WOrking as a full time IT Network Administrator, my suggestion is stick with 32bit OS unless you 3GB+ RAM is not sufficient, unless you enjoy troubleshoot computers. Personally, I am running Vista 64 ...

How do you capture all these images so nicely? Which utility did you use?

作者: Hyde 時間: 2008-12-26 11:02

print screen button on the keyboard

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2008-12-26 23:42

In Vista, there is the Snipping Tool, XP - Print Screen.

Philip

作者: chobit 時間: 2008-12-27 03:49

The easiest way is using the print screen button. To do that.. do Ctrl-Print Screen. To capture only the active windows, do Alt-Print Screen.

EL

作者: KK1 時間: 2008-12-30 23:13

how is the toshiba i've just bought from future shop on line for $649.99:
Toshiba 15.4" Satellite Intel Centrino Core 2 Duo T5800 2.0GHz Laptop (L300-04P) - Bilingual
Hard Drive Speed/Capacity  320GB 5400RPM
Optical Drive  8X Super Multi Dual Layer DVD
Processor Speed  2.0GHz
Processor Type  Intel Centrino Core 2 Duo T5800
RAM  4GB
Screen Size  15.4"
Graphics
Discrete Video Memory  No
Expandable Video Memory  Yes - Up To 1759MB
Graphics Chipset  Intel GMA X4500M
Integrated Video Memory  Yes
Native Screen Resolution  1280 x 800
Upgradable Video System  No
Video Memory  128MB
Audio
Audio Chipset  Realtek ALC268-GR
Audio Output  Stereo
Digital Input  No
Digital Output  No
Hardware Volume Control  Yes
Integrated Amplifier  No
Integrated Microphone  Yes
Microphone Input  Yes
Speaker Wattage  Not Provided By Manufacturer
Speakers  Yes
Inputs/Outputs
Card Reader  Yes
Card Reader - Compatible Memory Types  SD, SDHC, MS, MS Pro, MMC
Composite Output  No
ExpressCard/34 Input  Yes
ExpressCard/54 Input  No
HDCP Compliant  No
HDMI Port  No
IEEE 1394 Input/Output  No
IR Receiver  No
Number of Touchpad Buttons  2
PC Card Input  Express Card
S-Video Output  No
Type of Keyboard  Bilingual
Type of Modem  V.92 56K
Type of Pointing Device  Touchpad
USB 2.0  3
VGA Output  1
Webcam  Yes
Networking
Ethernet Port  10/100
Integrated Bluetooth  No
Integrated WiFi  802.11 a/g/n
Power
Battery - Capacity  4000mAh
Battery - Number of Cells  6
Battery Type  Lithium-Ion
Computing Features
Processor Cache  2MB L2
Removable Storage  No
System Bus  800MHz
Software
English/French Software  Bilingual
Loaded Software 1  Toshiba ConfigFree
Loaded Software 2  Adobe Acrobat Reader
Loaded Software 3  TOSHIBA Disc Creator
Loaded Software 4  Toshiba DVD Player
Pre-loaded Operating System  Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit
Accessories
Headphones  No
Remote  No
Product Features
Notebook Depth  26.78 cm
Notebook Thickness (closed)  3.77 cm
Notebook Weight (including Battery)  2.49 kg
Notebook Width  36.2 cm
Warranty Labour  1 Year
Warranty Parts  1 Year

作者: Hyde 時間: 2008-12-31 03:47

heavy, big, ugly and slow

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-1-1 02:12

The Toshiba L series is a cheap laptop that may last about 1 year or so. It's cheap, but practical that works for those who just need a computer that is slightly more powerful than a netbook.

If you are getting a Toshiba, get a Tecra or Portege... these are the REAL Toshiba. The Satellite A and L series are just crap coming out from some Taiwanese ODM that makes the Acer and HP.

Philip

作者: maldini 時間: 2010-8-13 23:48

Do you mean Acer and HP are crap?

作者: lo_pak 時間: 2010-8-14 10:59

回復 21# maldini

It depends on models, I won't recommend Acer even though the price is +/- 20% difference.

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