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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 10:16 標題: “No Indians, No Chinamen, and No dogs allowed.”

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作者: siumaibb 時間: 2009-1-22 11:40

係舊時D中國人唔掙氣先搞成咁，同埋都係以前既事。
與其晌到怨人歧視你，不如諗下點樣做先會令佢地改觀。

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-1-22 11:51

Must be something sad happened to Toppy ..

It is Canada .. U wont' see those ..

May be native indian 歧視 others .. as they are rich and powerful ...

作者: Purpleheart 時間: 2009-1-22 12:05

中國都係越黎越rich and powerful 啦

世界輪流轉, 好快唔係 " no chinamen ", 而係換成 caucasian 架喇

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 13:17

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 13:21

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作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-1-22 13:44

we are not ignoring the history. just wanted to point out that this is not the same now.
we all know about head tax, the non real citizenship (no voting right, can't join army) but that's history and the government should learn from mistake.

similar signage were found in HK when HK was first under Britain's rule.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 14:08

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作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-1-22 14:37 標題: 回復 8# 的帖子

I've been called " Qing" twice when I refused to to give "Spare changes"
other than that the caucasians treat me fairly for the 30+ years in Canada

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 14:46

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作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-1-22 14:52

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-22 15:46 發表

They didn't tell you to "f.ucking" leave and go back to China? I am surprised.

Close enough

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-1-22 15:06

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-22 11:16 發表
There’s lots of shame around carrying Chinese blood, or mixed blood. For the longest time people didn’t want to acknowledge that they carried any other blood other than Indian blood. When I was in U ...

I'm more proud to be Chinese Canadian.
Even I was born in China, lived 18 years in H.K., Canadians treat me with great respect as human,
they seldom look down me regardless my colour nor my accent, no, I'm not rich neither.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 15:09

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作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-1-22 15:20 標題: 回復 13# 的帖子

Hospitality, Canada post, School District ,Wholesaling, Manufacturing, Retailing, freelancing, courier.......

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作者: myversa 時間: 2009-1-22 15:35

From Toppy's post....

If you dislike Canada so much, why don't you just go back?

You are just like the "white" people you "labeled".

In your own way, if you see a Caucasian in Hong Kong or China, you would tell them "f.ucking" leave and go back to where-ever they come from.

作者: tapioca 時間: 2009-1-22 18:05

原帖由 somewhereintime 於 2009-1-22 14:37 發表
I've been called " Qing" twice when I refused to to give "Spare changes"
other than that the caucasians treat me fairly for the 30+ years in Canada

Got the similar experience too. It happened in Fraser Vally area BEFORE 8 a.m., he was on a bike claiming that he has been BIKING from Vancouver, hungry and tired, need spare change for coffee. He just shorted out all dirty words after I refused it. I was like comeon, make a better excuse!!
I just feel funny as he was yelling out all ethnic insulting words but he is actually the one who is begging

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-1-22 18:50

原帖由 myversa 於 2009-1-22 16:35 發表
From Toppy's post....

If you dislike Canada so much, why don't you just go back?

You are just like the "white" people you "labeled".

In your own way, if you see a Caucasian in Hong Kong or Chin ...

But it was the British imperialists who invaded Hong Kong and China. The Chinese did not invade Canada.

作者: goldie 時間: 2009-1-22 20:29

Toppy,
do you live in Canada?
You sound like you live somewhere else.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2009-1-22 21:12

都是加拿大的錯，大家快點回香港吧！！！

作者: samsung 時間: 2009-1-22 21:26

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2009-1-22 22:12 發表
都是加拿大的錯，大家快點回香港吧！！！

回火星好一點

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 21:30

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 21:31

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作者: goldie 時間: 2009-1-22 21:33

All these 15 years, where have you been? Inside Chinatown?

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 21:57

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作者: goldie 時間: 2009-1-22 22:02

Apparently you have not heard about "the pledge to be colour-blind" , "the spirit of multiculturalism" , "zero tolerance on hate propaganda" ? Did you not discussed these topics in school?

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 22:58

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-22 23:15

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作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2009-1-22 23:23

哦，
對於咁嚴重既種族岐視問題，
咁你諗住有啲乜野行動呢？？

作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 07:05

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-22 22:30 發表

First of all, we Hong Kong people don't do racial hate in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is a true International city; we don't tell anyone to "f.ucking" anything because of race.

I dislike it, then I have ...

I guess you never hear people say things like "死鬼老"

作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 07:21

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-22 22:57 發表

Ms. Goldie,

If I were inside Chinatown, I wouldn't know much about White people and/or deal with White people and the local culture/society now, would I?

As I said, I only report what I see ...

Well, yeah, I see you don't know jack about Canadian culture.

作者: salad_bread 時間: 2009-1-23 08:41

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-22 22:30 發表

First of all, we Hong Kong people don't do racial hate in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is a true International city; we don't tell anyone to "f.ucking" anything because of race.

I dislike it, then I have ...

Hong Kong people don't do racial hate in Hong Kong? What a joke!

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-1-23 09:03

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-22 22:57 發表
If I were inside Chinatown, I wouldn't know much about White people and/or deal with White people and the local culture/society now, would I?

You don't know sh*t about Caucasians & local society because you never considered yourself as Canadian & you don't respect Canadians. So how the f.u.c.k would you know when you're not even on the right wave length experiencing life in Canada? What you're experiencing is "Self-Dis-Racism-Syndrome"

作者: somewhereintime 時間: 2009-1-23 09:43

原帖由 salad_bread 於 2009-1-23 09:41 發表

Hong Kong people don't do racial hate in Hong Kong? What a joke!

I lived in Hong Kong for 20 years and had my education there so I was a Hong Kong citizen too,
although there is no significant racism hate issue, but discrimination against East Indian, Philippinno,
Black, Vietnamese, Camodian, Indonesian, people from Mainland China, Chinese Canadian persists for as long as I can remember

作者: siumaibb 時間: 2009-1-23 10:04

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-22 22:30 發表

First of all, we Hong Kong people don't do racial hate in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is a true International city; we don't tell anyone to "f.ucking" anything because of race.

I dislike it, then I have ...

香港無種族歧視？唔好笑爆我個咀啦
菲律賓女人=3000港紙一個月，洗死佢，鬧爆佢唔洗本既"賓妹"
印巴人=重慶大廈住客，守門口果D"亞叉"
黑人="黑鬼"，猩猩，怪物
仲有甚麼越南，印尼，泰國。。。全部都無香港人咁高等
香港人連大陸中國人都歧視
香港人唔歧視白人因為佢地崇洋，變相歧視緊自己
香港無錯係International city，但係只係經濟層面咋

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 11:34

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 11:36

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 11:37

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 11:41

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作者: real-mccoy 時間: 2009-1-23 11:51

siumaibb正正講哂我想講既野。唔好話第二個種族，香港人岐視大陸人，係而家要靠阿爺先收斂左。

你返到香港係majority，唔會覺得有岐視。你返去香港問吓Ｄ“阿燦”，“賓妹”，“阿差”，“阿星”，有無岐視？

don't you answer my question with another question.

on能99

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-1-23 11:54

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 12:41 發表

I think you don't understand 種族歧視.

I think you don't understsand 歧視 period.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 12:14

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 12:17

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作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 12:25

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 13:17 發表

When you said, on99, did you 歧視?

Discrimination yes, but is it justified?

For example,
I discriminate you because you said curse word.
I discriminate you because you are a criminal.
I discrimina ...

I don't understand what you are getting at. It almost look like you're saying when Hong Kong people discriminate it's justified.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 12:29

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作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 19:32

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 13:29 發表

That's why I said people like you don't understand.

People learned something in Canada; so they think it must be true everywhere.

I talked about this before. People living in a backward place, l ...

No buddy, you don't are mistaken.  What you described is racism, not discrimination.

Discrimination is being treated different based on the group you're associated with.  And this, I can tell you, do happen alot in Hong Kong.

Racism is any action or attitude towards a person based on their race

You said "Hong Kong people don't do racial hate", that means racism.  This, as pointed out by several people and still ignored by you, do happen in Hong Kong.

作者: MoiRhapsody 時間: 2009-1-23 19:50

原來佢有神經病，
思覺失調。
佢唔係為左討論而post,
佢只係想人同佢嘈咋~~~
越回佢越高興...
大家咪理佢為上策呀~~

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 20:26

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作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 20:40

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 21:31 發表

 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discriminate

Yes, we discriminate people in Hong Kong. Not not because of race or ignorance. But because there a good reason for it.

Please check the li ...

Yap, and the KKK are not racists, they have good reason for it.

作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 20:46

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 21:26 發表
Name-calling is a form of ad hominem attack that draws a vague equivalence between a concept and a person, group or idea. By linking the person or idea being attacked to a negative symbol, the propaga ...

Please check the link below for the word plagriarize (or plagriarism)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarize

作者: mui122 時間: 2009-1-23 20:53

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 21:31 發表

 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discriminate

Yes, we discriminate people in Hong Kong. Not not because of race or ignorance. But because there a good reason for it.

Please check the li ...

You're saying HK people discrimate Indians, Thais, and other races with good reason? For what reasons?? Please elaborate?

I've lived in Vancouver for 14 years and I was never once discriminated in any way. Nor did anyone use racial comments against me. In my opinion, I think racism happens the LEAST in Canada in comparison to other areas in the world. Contrary to other countries, Racism is also labeled as a very serious act in Canada. Of course there will always be bad apples out there so news you have posted here in loyaukee do pop up once in a while. But a nation is made up of human beings and human beings are prone to make errors. You can't expect that racism will not happen at all. Racism happened doesn't automatically mean racism is still a serious problem in this country. All of those head tax things you said are things of the past! Move on! They APOLOGIZED! What else do you want?? Can we not vote??? Do we have to pay head tax?? NO! We, as Chinese Canadians, are respected and granted the same freedom as any other individual in Canada. Why are you so mad?

And as to your note about discrimination in HK is justified. I think you might have lived outside of Hong Kong for too long. I don't blame you. People that misses HK and have not truly lived in it for a long period of time for a while would look at it as a perfect glamourous city. Reality check- it is not.. I've moved back and I would say racism is more of a problem here than in Canada. And sorry for bursting your bubble.. discrimination here is NOT justified.
Discrimination is discrimination. Racism is racism. There's no such thing as justified discrimination or justified racism.

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作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 20:56

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作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 21:06

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 21:57 發表

Google "Internet forum posting"

And your point is?

作者: mui122 時間: 2009-1-23 21:09

"So you moved back?  Yet you say Canada is so great?  Why didn't you stay?  "
I moved back for a Job offer

"Racism is not a serious act in Canada at all.  I think you left Canada for too long.  Because HK has gotten worse after 1997, you suddenly feel Canada is so GREAT!  You miss your previous "good life" in Canada and obviously would look at it as a perfect glamourous country."
I moved back for ONE year so your claims are invalid here

"Same as the other guy, you also don't understand what discrimination means or racism means.  I don't blame you.  Since you learned it in Canada."
Have you ever wondered why nobody agrees with you? When you think you understand the true meaning of discrimination/racism and nobody else agrees with you...Have you considered the fact that maybe you're the one that's misunderstood?

作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 21:12

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 22:04 發表

So you moved back? Yet you say Canada is so great? Why didn't you stay? Actually, I don't care.
But I respect your opinion in the 1st paragraph.

Racism is not a serious act in Canada at all. I ...

You're making assumptions again. When did mui122 say when she moved back? She could've just moved a month ago or a year ago. Left too long? Reasonable expectation again I guess.

So where did you learn "Discrimination" and "racism"? And how did you know people like me learned it in Canada? And how are you so sure where ever you learned it from is the "right" one?

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 21:17

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作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 21:39

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 22:17 發表

Re-read the paragraph she/he wrote?

A month ago or a year ago. So? I don't care. It seems like 3 minutes is too long for someone. I couldn't care less how what is too long for you or anyone.

I ...

So then you've left Hong Kong way too long to realize how it is like there now. But Mui122 can since she's there.

okay, you claim people like me learn discrimination from Canada. I say you're wrong since you know no backyard history of me.

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 21:43

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作者: Austin 時間: 2009-1-23 21:49

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 22:43 發表

That's my opinion about some people here. If you say I am wrong, that's fine--it is YOUR LIFE, I don't care.

Oh come on, you wanted a discussion and now you don't care? Do you want a discussion or do you just want to complain?

作者: Toppy 時間: 2009-1-23 21:57

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作者: B仔 時間: 2009-1-23 23:30

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-1-23 22:43 發表

That's my opinion about some people here. If you say I am wrong, that's fine--it is YOUR LIFE, I don't care.

You don't care 還 you don't care. 唔好乜叉都斷估。斷估完比人話你斷估，你就話it's fine you don't care。你唔斷估估錯咪冇人話你囉。

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作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2009-1-29 09:19

there is always a good side and bad side

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