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作者: elan7e    時間: 2009-3-29 21:34     標題: 凍飲加一元,是否食水太深?

午市特價套餐送熱飲一杯,但凍飲要加一元,有否覺得太貴?
作者: tofu    時間: 2009-3-29 21:46

if it is a food court or cheap restaurant, a dollar is too much.  but if it is a restaurant like icafe, a dollar is ok, since foods from there are expensive already
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-29 22:00

if it is a food court or cheap restaurant, a dollar is too much.  but if it is a restaurant like icafe, a dollar is ok, since foods from there are expensive already
tofu 發表於 2009-3-29 21:46

What I think is the other way around:
For low end fast food type, it is a burden to include beverage in the set meal, tea, coffee and pop are easy, cold drink generally take more time to fix and more Horlick, Ovaltine, Almond mix etc is needed to make cold drink. And they are always short-laboured. Imposing a surcharge would prevent people abusing the system. It is an option, you pay extra only when you insist to have substitute. I'm  not in food business any more, I speak as a customer
作者: elan7e    時間: 2009-3-29 22:00

以i-cafe為例,熱奶茶一杯$2.5,如果加一元就是加40%!!!!!!
作者: 嘉嘉    時間: 2009-3-29 22:02

香港其實好似都係加得差唔多...
作者: elan7e    時間: 2009-3-29 22:14

3# somewhereintime
內行人的說明，令我多點了解。
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-29 22:15

以i-cafe為例,熱奶茶一杯$2.5,如果加一元就是加40%!!!!!!
elan7e 發表於 2009-3-29 22:00

I thought on your # 1 post, you said changing  the hot beverage to cold beverage,
they would charge $1.00 extra. However, for regular drinks, the price is a little steep.
But keep in mind that the hot coffee and tea is 7 oz. serving while cold drinks is 12 ox serving, almost double in size
作者: ricrick    時間: 2009-3-29 23:22

係！但你可以點？你唯有吾好幫親，等佢地知難以退
好彩仲有好多吾洗加錢
作者: chunsh    時間: 2009-3-29 23:34

I thought on your # 1 post, you said changing  the hot beverage to cold beverage,
they would charge $1.00 extra. However, for regular drinks, the price is a little steep.
But keep in mind that the ho ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-3-29 23:15


come on, those are ice
我重記得食神個段星爺叫的手下的凍飲﹐加多的冰....
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-3-29 23:43

冰就唔洗錢???
作者: mcjohnjohn    時間: 2009-3-29 23:46

香港其實好似都係加得差唔多...
嘉嘉 發表於 2009-3-30 14:02

唔係架, 香港茶餐廳凍飲會加兩蚊(HKD).
好少少既餐廳凍飲通常唔需要加錢的.

-- 香港人麥莊莊
作者: tofu    時間: 2009-3-29 23:58

"""I thought on your # 1 post, you said changing  the hot beverage to cold beverage,
they would charge $1.00 extra."""

that was what i thought as well.

as a customer, if i were already paying for a $10 set lunch, i don't mind to pay $1 for the cold drink, only 10% on top.  but if i were in the food court and paying $5 for a set lunch, i would rather to spend the dollar on a coke which i even have an extra drink.  i think most of the restaurants are charging $.5.  some are charging $1 for reg. size and $1.5 for jumbo size.
still remember the old days, people ordered hot drink and ask for separate glass of ice.
作者: chunsh    時間: 2009-3-30 00:03

冰就唔洗錢???
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2009-3-30 00:43


no, I know that making ice also required cost, but shouldnt add too much to the drink
作者: 嘉嘉    時間: 2009-3-30 00:37

11# mcjohnjohn


oh，咁可能我依個係大家樂價錢
都無幾可得閒去茶餐廳坐低添.....
作者: tck    時間: 2009-3-30 00:42

ok la
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2009-3-30 02:06

我覺得係好過去搶。。。
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2009-3-30 02:14

There is one in Richmond, which even hot Horlick and Ovaltine will need to charge another $0.25 tim la! To me, that's nonsense!
作者: peter236    時間: 2009-3-30 02:33

唔係架, 香港茶餐廳凍飲會加兩蚊(HKD).
好少少既餐廳凍飲通常唔需要加錢的.

-- 香港人麥莊莊
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-3-30 00:46


Have you stayed in Vancouver before?
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2009-3-30 07:52

I think it's ok. For the extra cost of ice and syrup in cold drinks. Do you know how much syrup they put in the cold drinks. (esp lemon tea)
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-30 07:56

19# 布小熊

It is OK if they are served in 12-14 oz 350-400 ml  tall glass instead of 7 oz. 200 ml.
作者: myversa    時間: 2009-3-30 08:07

We do not add one dollar extra for our drink but I can understand it's hard to store much ice in the limited spaces for food courts.  It also takes time to crush the ice for the customer.
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2009-3-30 08:38

19# 布小熊


syrup = sugar + water, extra $0.50 is the max I can accept....
say the restaurant serves 50 cold drinks / night, 50 x 30 = $1500 per month, I don't think they'll need $1500 a month for for sugar & the hydro bill to make ice.
作者: Littleprince    時間: 2009-3-30 08:51

絕對係貴。。。5-8 毫先係合理﹐最好唔加。。。

所以呢個現象都解釋到﹐點解一D唔加的地方特別好生意

當然喇﹐也視乎他們是買冰定係自制﹐若是買冰﹐都算合理的﹐但小型的餐廳﹐自己制冰就唔應該收客人 EXTRA 囉。。。
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-30 08:56

22# siumaibb
As I said earlier, labour cost is expensive, syrup is nothing, maybe  .$ 0.15
In this logic, nobody would ever buy Bubbletea.
$7.00 pearl would yield 50 serving.
For a 16 oz serving, the total material cost including is $0.60-$0.75 and how much
are you paying???  $2.00? $3.00 or $5.50?
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2009-3-30 09:42

22# siumaibb
As I said earlier, labour cost is expensive, syrup is nothing, maybe  .$ 0.15
In this logic, nobody would ever buy Bubbletea.
$7.00 pearl would yield 50 serving.
For a 16 oz serving, th ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-3-30 08:56


you're right, bubble tea is a rip off but cold bbt & hot bbt are in the SAME PRICE.
ok, if you say labour, how much time difference is it for a server to prepare a hot drink than a cold drink? 30 seconds? do you pay your server $100 an hour?

Well, Canada is a free country and they can charge whatever they want, but if the food quality is similar I will choose a place that charge resonable for cold drink.
作者: Littleprince    時間: 2009-3-30 09:50

Talking about bbt, Taiwan's bbt is very cheap, Vancouver is grabbing $$$
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2009-3-30 10:12

Talking about bbt, Taiwan's bbt is very cheap, Vancouver is grabbing $$$
Littleprince 發表於 2009-3-30 09:50


yes，有d仲好難飲
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-30 10:43

25# siumaibb

Hot beverage are usually coffee, tea or half &half, those are pre-made and just pour.
While for cold beverage, you have to make a strong base and pour over ice in long glass, again, you pay for the extra quantity almost double in size.
I repeat , the topic is "Charging $1 extra for substituting cold  drinks for set meal",
not for regular drink that you're already paying full price.
If you want to change anything from the Dinner Special at  Fancy Chinese restaurant,
would cost you a fortune
作者: habitrailspace    時間: 2009-3-30 10:47

they should charge 99cents
作者: Catpiano    時間: 2009-3-30 10:48

Same everywhere la..  

Same here $1 more for COLD drink ..   

And also $1 in HK ....  lol
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-30 10:48

Talking about bbt, Taiwan's bbt is very cheap, Vancouver is grabbing $$$
Littleprince 發表於 2009-3-30 09:50

It is call " The highest price market would bear" strategy.
Just  like people would pay $6:00 for instant noodles
The market already collapsed in Seattle, they are selling it for US$1.00
Some BBT places have dropped to $2.00 and many would follow suit soon too.
It is not my problem cus I hardly buy from Cha Restaurant, and BBT is not my cup of tea, too old
作者: 小叻    時間: 2009-3-30 10:51

umm...since i like cold drinks.. i dun mind paying extra $1 for ice lemon honey or ice lemon coke
作者: shutterbug    時間: 2009-3-30 11:17

cold drink and tiny bowl of rice....same thing....rip off la...LOL
作者: rockypath    時間: 2009-3-30 14:11

Drinks are the most profitable products in resturants. Charging extra for cold drinks is just a tatic to get higher profit. It is not because of extra material and labour (especially the labour for preparing a cold drink or hot drink are almost the same in Chinese resturants. extra material? maybe $.10. ).
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-30 14:53

cold drink and tiny bowl of rice....same thing....rip off la...LOL
shutterbug 發表於 2009-3-30 11:17

Yeah, once I went to a Chinese restaurant for causal  dinner,
the dishes were alright, but when I checked the bill, they dared
to charge us $10 for rice which we did not order. They just
assumed someone from our party would order rice then they
charged us per person. Call it rip-off.
作者: Littleprince    時間: 2009-3-30 15:06

借此提醒所有 LYK﹐大班人去食飯 (或者說任何時候出去吃飯) 記得 CHECK 單﹐因為我地都遇過食店博懵 (或作﹕ 搞錯) 的事件﹐大家唔想比冤枉錢一定要細看單據。
作者: wow    時間: 2009-3-30 15:49

其實加一蚊唔緊要,但真係好多好多冰,所以變得唔抵飲
作者: Littleprince    時間: 2009-3-30 18:06

其實加一蚊唔緊要,但真係好多好多冰,所以變得唔抵飲
wow 發表於 2009-3-30 16:49

第日自己帶D冰去至得
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2009-3-30 19:10

It is call " The highest price market would bear" strategy.
Just  like people would pay $6:00 for instant noodles
The market already collapsed in Seattle, they are selling it for US$1.00
Some BBT pla ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-3-30 10:48

No need to be that professionally complicated. It's just "物離鄉貴".
作者: elan7e    時間: 2009-3-30 21:28

分別在香港和温哥華認識兩個都是開茶餐廳的朋友, 兩位都承認最好賺就是飲品。凍飲加錢就是錦上添花。不過唔緊要，錢當然要賺，但當顧客認為貴，或者感到不值，就會找另一間凍飲同價的餐館。越在加拿大住得久了, 越感到賺錢艱難, 好聽說是要精打細算, 唔好聽就是斤斤計較。特別是現在的艱難時刻。
Somewhereintime兄說人工是最貴，對，人工是貴, 但工人請了回來無嘢做就更浪費, 所以為什麽不降低少少價，賣多幾杯奶茶不是更花算嗎? 另外Somewhereintime 兄說凍飲是大杯D, 我想純粹是因為要用一個大一點的容器載這些冰塊吧。小弟是外行人， it's my 2 cents.
作者: 華美子    時間: 2009-3-30 21:41

佢成日開住部造冰機既費用點到貴過開住部熱水機既費用.
作者: rockypath    時間: 2009-3-30 22:03

Somewhereintime兄說人工是最貴，對，人工是貴, 但工人請了回來無嘢做就更浪費, 所以為什麽不降低少少價，賣多幾杯奶茶不是更花算嗎? 另外Somewhereintime 兄說凍飲是大杯D, 我想純粹是因為要用一個大一點的容器載這些冰塊吧。小弟是外行人， it's my 2 cents.elan7e 發表於 2009-3-30 22:28


If you are 内行人, you will find what Somewhereintime兄說的是外行話.
作者: Ultraman    時間: 2009-3-30 23:53

Honestly, making Hong-style coffee and Hong-style tea is much more complicated than "simply mixing a few spoons of ready made Ovaltine or Horlick into water", if talking about labor cost. If talking about "material cost", self made coffee and tea could be cheaper than to buy the ready made Ovaltine and Horlick.

However, if just talking about labor cost, since most commonly they're counted by hourly rate or monthly rate, but not paid by each cup/glass of beverage made. That means, no matter how many cups/glasses of hot or cold beverages they can made in an hour doesn't actually affect the labor cost at all.
作者: pc2426    時間: 2009-3-31 00:30

i think $0.5 is the max they can charge extra
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-31 05:34

本帖最後由 somewhereintime 於 2009-3-31 05:57 編輯

44# pc2426
Let's go back to the post #1,
the discussion was about adding $1.00 for substitution cold beverage  in the
Lunch Special Set Not for regular price.
How come nobody ever complain  about the Vietnamese iced dripped coffee?
It is $3-4 a serving even at Viet Submarine Shop.
A HK style Barrista is not cheap, many of them make $3500 or more a month,
with some under table pay.  They are the key personnel at Cha Restaurant,
especially in HK.
I have trained hundreds of  bar and water-fountain staffs  in HK and Canada,
and taught  full-time  Cha Chan Tang courses at SUCCESS as well.
Both Ultraman and I agreed  that HK style tea is much more complicated and
labour intensive than  Canadian Tea.  Is there any LYK worked in Cha restaurant
before? Ice machine cost $4000 and up plus plumbing,  installation and maintainence.
How much you pay for an Iced espresso at Staxxxxxx?
And for Martini, do you think 1 shot of Gin worth $12  while the whole bottle cost
$17? you don't even get any ice in your glass     Market Rate!
We are here to express our  personal opinion,  if you do not agree, just speak up with
your point, instead of   finger-pointing without substantial.
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2009-3-31 07:06

借此提醒所有 LYK﹐大班人去食飯 (或者說任何時候出去吃飯) 記得 CHECK 單﹐因為我地都遇過食店博懵 (或作﹕ 搞錯) 的事件﹐大家唔想比冤枉錢一定要細看單據。 ...
Littleprince 發表於 2009-3-30 15:06


which one, any hints?
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2009-3-31 07:37

45# somewhereintime

你單叫凍奶茶都要3-4蚊，無人complain單叫凍飲。
我地講緊凍飲加錢，一個餐當佢$8，加入$1就係13%，我唔理港式奶茶咖啡有幾難整，個cost已經計左落果$8到，晌顧客既角度果13%就只係加冰落杯野到。你話冰機要4千蚊，咁你部機用幾耐丫，係唔係整4千杯野之後就唔用？
不過講到尾都係觀點與角度，你覺得你個餐淨係送熱飲，我係要玩野轉凍飲，咁你咪收我玩野費。OK，咁我咪唔叫凍飲囉，不過如果我搵到間近近地，野食又差唔多不過送凍飲，咁我咪同你講聲ByeBye囉。
作者: 老友四號    時間: 2009-3-31 20:58

一蚊又好似贵咗D五毫又太平咁最好係七毫半。

以上只係站在消費者立場嚟講。
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2009-3-31 21:00

一蚊又好似贵咗D五毫又太平咁最好係七毫半。

以上只係站在消費者立場嚟講。
老友四號 發表於 2009-3-31 20:58

Agree
作者: Littleprince    時間: 2009-3-31 21:49

which one, any hints?
siumaibb 發表於 2009-3-31 08:06

唔止一間有這情況﹐特別是唐人餐館﹐一大班人食飯的情況要特別注意查單。。。

烈治文某日本餐廳試過無喇喇收我們一支酒錢﹐好彩我有看單﹐總之唔好怕尷尬﹐要 CHECK 清楚。
作者: ACooperFan    時間: 2009-3-31 22:37

There is one in Richmond, which even hot Horlick and Ovaltine will need to charge another $0.25 tim la! To me, that's nonsense!
Ultraman 發表於 2009-3-30 03:14


just curious....which place is so cheap ahh?
作者: 快樂牛郎    時間: 2009-3-31 23:08

似乎大家唔係好相信市場係efficient
如果係貴 就唔會有人order
既然set得一蚊 而且有人飲
即係唔貴

唔想俾錢可以唔去/order
作者: MoiRhapsody    時間: 2009-3-31 23:29

似乎大家唔係好相信市場係efficient
如果係貴 就唔會有人order
既然set得一蚊 而且有人飲
即係唔貴

唔想俾錢可以唔去/order
快樂牛郎 發表於 2009-4-1 00:08

又有道理喎
作者: heykevin    時間: 2009-3-31 23:46

51# ACooperFan


I think he means one of the stores in Parker Place foodcourt.

Am I right?

I had the same experience.
作者: RayRay    時間: 2009-4-3 23:09

I like hot stuff to turn myself on.
作者: ah3    時間: 2009-4-5 10:57

I always thought CAD $1 is too much while it's only an extra HKD $2 in HK. Logically the labour, ice machine, etc should cost the same in both places, but! we are in Vancouver...mo gai.
作者: tweety    時間: 2010-1-8 17:50

a lot of restaurant like that gar la.. where have u been? or where u from?
作者: tweety    時間: 2010-1-8 17:53

25# siumaibb


did u ever notice that a lot of richmond's bubble tea place... hot bubble tea is charge more than cold one gar??
作者: somewhereintime    時間: 2010-1-8 22:38

Maybe I'm too old, I won't imagine to go to bubbletea place for a decent coffee.
Imagine some nice estate  Blue Mountain coffee with Coffeemate and Pearl Balls
作者: elan7e    時間: 2010-1-9 22:43

凍鬼冰冰，做乜鬼翻了這麽舊的"凍飲"post出來的講？
作者: 布小熊    時間: 2010-1-9 23:07

60# elan7e
I was wondering too.
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-11 11:23

凍鬼冰冰，做乜鬼翻了這麽舊的"凍飲"post出來的講？
elan7e 發表於 2010-1-9 23:43


who is 凍鬼冰冰?
作者: bubblesalt    時間: 2010-1-11 17:19

凍鬼冰冰= It's really cold right now...
作者: siumaibb    時間: 2010-1-11 17:30

geez, I just found out that I used to spend time to reply people's post, I don't think I will do that anymore, thanx to toppy and those golden forum fans.
作者: myversa    時間: 2010-1-13 10:00

凍鬼冰冰= It's really cold right now...
bubblesalt 發表於 2010-1-11 18:19


I see... thank you.





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