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作者: beaver 時間: 2009-5-2 16:18 標題: MS Windows 7 RC

Will release on May 5, 2009 (PST) and good until June 30, 2010.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-5-2 16:25

I thought torrent already available...

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-5-2 16:43

what is this
microsoft windows 7 RC????????????????????????

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-5-2 17:45

2# ACC-HE

I bt it but cannot install on my machine(It won't start from the DVD) and have error when run the setup. The build version is 7100.
I can install the beta that I download from MS without any problem.

ps. the rc is available in MSDN and Technet

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-5-2 18:02

3# tiffiant

RC is stand for Release Candidate.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-5-2 18:32

i just want to know
is this another version of windows?

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-5-2 19:14

6# tiffiant

Yes, the final release will be around October after Vista officially sell on Jan of 2007.

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-5-2 19:29

6# tiffiant

Yes, the final release will be around October after Vista officially sell on Jan of 2007.
beaver 發表於 2009-5-2 19:14

so that's a new windows operating system?
newer than vista?

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-5-2 19:40

yes and use less resources than vista.

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-5-2 20:28

I could not install the beta version, because it could not reboot. Why is that?

作者: yuusaku 時間: 2009-5-2 20:30

installed it on Virtual box 2.2.2, couldn't get the audio working

(while ubuntu on the same virtual box works flawlessly)

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-5-2 21:30

erh? still a beta version?

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-5-3 07:38

12# tiffiant

Alfa, Beta, Release Candidate, RTM release to manufacturer, SP1, SP2, SP3, no more support(buy a new one), ...

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-5-3 10:57

i guess i have look the homepage
i don't really get it....its ok

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-5-3 12:30

Those who download it off BT, please make sure you scan the image before installing because there is a malware/trojan in the BT release.

I have the official release from MSDN and I find it slower compare to the pre-RC 7077.

Let's hope that they can fix some minor issues (almost perfect) in the next RC.

Those who want to install Windows 7, please do it on a blank machine. You then should not have any issues.

I love Windows 7 more than XP/Vista and Leopard!!

Philip

作者: tiffiant 時間: 2009-5-3 12:31

thanks then|

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-5-4 11:11

how much will it cost when it comes out?

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-5-4 11:16

Win 7 has some very nice looking wallpaper... nice!

http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive ... of-personality.aspx

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-5-4 20:50

Price is not out yet, but expect to the about the same as Vista.

Just get OEM...

Philip

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-5-5 01:21

Price is not out yet, but expect to the about the same as Vista.

Just get OEM...

Philip
pkphilip 發表於 2009-5-4 21:50

How do you get OEM? Just buy a new computer?

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-5-5 09:19

Win 7 Release Candidate, DOWNLOAD Today!

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-5-5 09:44

20# peter236

You can buy OEM when you buy a new hard disk(as a new machine).

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-5-5 19:16

22# beaver

I have downloaded and installed the build 7100. However cannot boot from DVD, just run setup.exe from beta build 7000.

New startup time is just 50 second. The wall paper are quite nice and no more hang up when running rmvb files.

enjoy

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-5-20 00:53

Win 7 Release Candidate, DOWNLOAD Today!
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-5-5 10:19

installed on a  40 gig harddisk  with the key microsoft sent me via hotmail

i just pull out my regular harddisk, and put this 40 gig harddisk in and try out
windows 7
i suggest people interested in windows 7 do the same
a good used 49 gig harddisk is probably $10
from www.freegeekvancouver.org

first off, windows 7  does not recognize the video card, the sound card,
and the modem
this lack of hardware intellegent appear to be like windows vista

similarly windows 7 accepts the windows xp drivers for the modem and the sound card

what is new with windows 7 is
in windows update,  it actually provides the drivers for the  video card and the
on board sound card
the video card only supports DX9, ( i think a DX9 video card is not fully functional in
windows vista, but i hope it flies in windows 7 )

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-5-20 14:13

I installed Windows 7 on a laptop, which comes with pretty standard hardware, Windows 7 recognized them without any issues. (Intel video, SigmaTel, Realtek Sound)

Philip

作者: celeron_266 時間: 2009-5-20 15:52

even with the beta...it recognizes everything in my tablet (amd puma platform)

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-5-20 15:55

I installed Windows 7 on a laptop, which comes with pretty standard hardware, Windows 7 recognized them without any issues. (Intel video, SigmaTel, Realtek Sound)

Philip
pkphilip 發表於 2009-5-20 14:13

Bought a new cheapo systm for the living room to serve the TV. Instead of buying another copy of employee price Vista, installed freebie Win 7 RC instead. Took me like 6/7 hours to DL from MSDN? Burned and installed fresh without a glitch. All devices detected automatically, other than the Linksys Wireless G USB stick, which I needed to intsall drivers from the CD. Working pretty nicely so far.~

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-5-20 20:24

6-7 hours? On ADSL??

I got it from MSDN too and I guess my Shaw connection took less than 1 hour @ 1.00 MBps

I find that the public RC build 7100 has some performance issues. I am using 7127 and the problem is gone.

Philip

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-5-20 21:54

ADSL. I don't exactly remember how long, but definately more than an hour. I think it was 6/7 hours. I only got 15XKB/s...

作者: celeron_266 時間: 2009-5-21 00:45

29# BiscottiGelato
yea took me one overnight to download the 64bit one with ADSL

then download both 32bit and 64bit using UBC's wireless network (20Mbit/s)..take less than 1hr to get both of them

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-5-23 15:02

about download time..

  size  is 2.4 gb

  with a wired highspeed  connection , its less than 1 hour
compare with  using a wireless g , usb adaptor , its estimated to be 2 hours 30 minutes

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-6-14 15:48

i have downloaded another build of windows 7
build 7227

but it turned out to be in vhd format

any one know of any simple instructions on what to do with this file
my goal is to replace windows 7 on a harddrive petition with this build

作者: clearance 時間: 2009-6-15 11:28

vhd is virtual hard disk format made by microsoft. you can load it in virtual pc 2007 to setup a virtual machine.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-6-15 12:09

I am getting 7231 now... there should be one more build before RTM.

Philip

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-6-17 14:30

vhd is virtual hard disk format made by microsoft. you can load it in virtual pc 2007 to setup a virtual machine.
clearance 發表於 2009-6-15 12:28

interesting..,.
maanmo know all along, trying out  this  vdh  file is playing with fire.
so maanmo takes a few days off to enjoy life , knowing that he may take the
ultimate sacrifice  in trying out windows 7 in vdh format
now maanmo is looking for  a hammer to hit it on his head to crack the  answers

my goal is to install this windows 7 in (vhd) on a harddrive which already has a version of windows 7,  preferably wiping out the old version and sits on the harddrive as a real thing.
but
what is  virtual pc 2007 ?
when i do find it on my harddrive, how do i load  the vdh file  , from where ?
load it from a DVD ?
and then  after loading it  where do i set up the virtual machine,  on the hard drive ?
what happen to the earlier version of windows 7  , is it still there?

maanmo 's head needs to be cracked
may be its safer to download  an iso version  of windows 7

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-6-17 15:47

Do you guys keep a copy of all these new builds?

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-6-17 18:46

Do you guys keep a copy of all these new builds?
peter236 發表於 2009-6-17 16:47

in the software forum  where i  get software infor, the build to get now is
build 7260
  it is not important to keep the new builds, because one has always to make room for  newer builds

  one wants to try these builds, because, deep inside our heart , there is a dream,
  that microsoft will come up with something fantastic..

there is one problem of course,  people who can build fantastic os  , somehow failed to get hired by microsoft,
even if they are hired , the corporate enviroment of microsoft  will make these talents difficult to grow

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-6-17 18:49

From which forum did you get these builds, besides microsoft itself?

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-6-17 23:46

There is no point in getting 7260 (RTM) because RC and beta keys are most likely won't work. I am downloading 7260 ISO now and will install tomorrow night and let you all know result.

Philip

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-6-19 07:48

Installed 7260 last night, and everything is smooth. It accepts RC/Beta key.

The difference I see is, the wallpaper is changed from the fish to Windows logo.

Philip

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-6-19 22:27

From which forum did you get these builds, besides microsoft itself?
peter236 發表於 2009-6-17 19:49

if you google search " windows 7 build 7227 "
you will find webpages disscussing these builds, on one webpage
it is said these builds are available from the " usual sources "
i dont know what these usual souces are
but for many years, now, i get my software support from forum such as the one below

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作者: maldini 時間: 2009-6-24 17:26

I burn the image to the DVD. But how do you make it bootable? I burn the images for vista, windows 7 beta etc before, but they were not bootable.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-6-24 22:28

What program do you use to burn? I use IMGBurn and it works all the time.

Philip

作者: maldini 時間: 2009-6-24 23:31

What program do you use to burn? I use IMGBurn and it works all the time.

Philip
pkphilip 發表於 2009-6-24 23:28

I used Nero to burn those images e.g Vista RC, Windows Beta

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-6-26 15:21

I used Nero to burn those images e.g Vista RC, Windows Beta
maldini 發表於 2009-6-25 00:31

you have never burned any iso files  and see them boot succesfully?
is that your problem ?

i have download  windows 7, 7260  in iso format and burned to dvd using nero

installed , but i found this version of windows 7,  does not allow me to install optional language packs

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-7-12 11:23

45# maanmo

Found Windows 7 RTM 7600 build in the net. It seems that MS may made the final release in the near future.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-7-13 00:31

7600 is the final RTM is signing off TODAY! That will be available on TechNet hopefully on 16-17.

Philip

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-7-13 08:07

most sources say 7600 is not RTM

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-7-13 22:02

Because MS says RTM will be finalized in July, the last build is 7260.. Obviously 7260 to 7600 would be associated with RTM. Since it is not posted on TechNet at all, all I can say is... I will have to wait and see as the x86 version is not out yet. My test unit does not run x64 at this point. If it takes the RC key, then great, we have another RC.

Philip

作者: Hyde 時間: 2009-7-14 06:30

7264 stop allowing RC key to be activated already

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-7-15 00:23

my test lap top for windows 7

is a dell  pentium 4  1.6ghz, 500mb ram, 40 g harddrive
a 32mb nvidia geforce2 go  video card,

this is a good test machine for windows 7, as it is below the minimum hardware requirment

windows 7 does not have drivers for the video card, the sound, the network
however once i installed the  x p drivers from dell, windows 7 has updates for the sound and network card.
however windows 7  has good driver for the usb wireless adaptor

i am now testing  build 7264
indeed , i dont think it takes that treasured key from microsoft

now it becomes a game of making my copy of 7264 genuine with
an activator
i have used this activator  a dozen times with peculiar results, just like a game
the non genuine tag has appeared a couple of time, i can run the activator to make the tag disappear..
so far i have not been able to get any updates from microsoft
i imagine its not going to be likely my 7264 will get any updates from microsoft
perhaps  there is no need for updates as we expect another build for 32 bit machine to appear soon

when i was testing  the first rc build 7200, i was able to download  the chinese language pack from microsoft update
for build 7254 i search the web " windows 7,7264, language pack download"
google found
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/07/05/language-packs-mui-lip-for-windows-7-build-7264-32-bit-and-64-bit/

general information on build 7264
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/07/01/download-windows-7-build-7264-leaked-x86-and-x64-iso-rtm-branch-escrow/

on build 7600  from the same website , "my digital life"
http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/07/13/windows-7-and-server-2008-r2-rtm-build-7600-6-1-7600-16384-win7_rtm-090710-1945/

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-7-16 23:41

a check  with the world, and i see build 7600 32bit, is now available

so i can just let build 7264  expires in 30 days

one thing i am pleased with windows 7 is  i can still install the little cantonese input method
that allows me to input chinese  without going online to  cantoneseiput.com

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-8-10 15:05

have been using build 7600 for several weeks now,  there were about 2 weeks left for the trial period

basically trying out windows 7 , is just a game of getting it genuinized

i have tried to genuinize  windows 7 several times without success
to day  i try the newest version
Windows 7 Loader OEM 1.3 by Orbit30/ Hazar (32 and 64 bit)
thanks to the tutorage of shahpar

If You DON'T Have Slic 2.1 in BIOS:
Make sure you are disconnected from the internet.
1. Right click .exe, select run as administrator
2. Click on Uninstall 7Loader and remove OEM logo,wait, reboot
3. Right click .exe, select run as administrator
4. On the list find your name of motherboard
5. Click on the icon (installing OEM info)
6. Click on Activate Windows
7. Restart (in my case it was automatic)
8. Right click .exe, select run as administrator
9. Click on 7 Activation Status

Note: Step 9 is a Anti WGA Blacklister which stops your from getting blacklisted when doing windows updates so you MUST make sure you dobthe last step.

What is SLIC 2.1?
When ever you buy a pc/laptop from a vendor like Dell, Acer, IBM etc they come with SLIC bios. SLIC basicly contains tables that contain OEM information(Original Equiepment Manufacturer).this technology is embedded in the bios of the computer. the main advantage of this technology is that when M$ makes operating systems, they create a product key for each DVD that they are selling so that it can be installed only by the buyer. However when it comes to mass distrubution like Dell Acer, they create a RTM copy so that the dvd that is sent to Dell will only work on dell machines and non other. again this is varified by the DVD from the BIOS of the compter which has the SLIC infomation.Now when Vista was launched SLIC v 2.0 was created and all the laptops/Pcs that hit the marked from a vendor came with that version.Now when people installed vista from the OEM DVD in the OEM machine they never asked for any product key and it was already activated whareas if the same DVD is used for installation in any other Pc (Non OEM) then it will ask for a product key and also you would need to activate the product with in a period of time. So the hacks that came out for Vista was a Bios emulator which actually emulated the Bios of a real OEM , and it used to load while booting and post boot the certificates used to pass thinking it was a OEM. That was SLIC 2.0. but now M$ came up with SLIC 2.1, that means the laptops that has 2.0 will not install and activate DVDs created for 2.1. But hopefully we will have a 2.1 emulater for windows 7 soon that can be installed on customized PC/laptops like mine.

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-8-10 22:28

Unless you hard-mod the BIOS, MS can still catch any activators.

At this time, MS already blacklisted the Lenovo OEM key. I will wait until more OEM keys are out before even doing anything.

Philip

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-9-14 09:37

1# beaver

My boot error code 5 was fixed. Refer to the following link:

http://www.unawave.de/windows-7-tipps/code5-error.html?lang=EN

It was due to M$ changed the boot sector that some of the old ASRock and MSI boards are not compatible. Mine was one of the old AMD board that is running 2500+ for testing purpose. I am using the ImgBurn method to change the boot disk image and it works. Have tried the floppy disk boot up but failed.

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-9-17 23:57

my windows 7 , believed to be the final build has been doing fine for more than a month now

without me entering any key
" the windows 7 loader ", seems to work
my windows 7 has been in a state of genuineity and updating steadily

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-9-18 08:47

Student pricing for Home Premium - $30 :-)

Philip

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-9-29 17:52

Windows 7 does not have built-in Mail/Address book, you need to download the Live Essential to have the same functions.

Philip

作者: lifegoeson 時間: 2009-10-1 23:33

Student pricing for Home Premium - $30 :-)

Philip
pkphilip 發表於 2009-9-18 09:47

$30 is only for U.S. students I think. I guess Canadian student will pay a little more?

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-10-3 00:13

You can try to check this frequently for Canada: http://www.microsoft.com/student ... eal-ca/default.aspx

Philip

作者: lifegoeson 時間: 2009-10-8 16:48

Oh I don't even know there is a site for Canadian student. Thanks for the link Philip!

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-11-1 15:26

Does any one know an inexpensive sound card that support Windows 7? My Asus P5L on board sound does not support Windows 7. I had got the driver from Asus, however it didn't work.

Thanks in advance

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-11-2 13:23

The P5L uses Realtek sound, can find the drivers direct: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downlo ... 3&GetDown=false

Philip

作者: maldini 時間: 2009-11-2 17:46

Does Windows Vista or Windows 7 format NTFS differently than the previous Windows? I know there are some changes to NTFS over the versions of Windows. So when I install Windows 7, do I just let Windows 7 reformat the partition or just leave the existing NTFS partition as is?

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-11-2 20:48

63# pkphilip

Thanks Philip.

My P5L-MX is using Analog Device AD1986A chip set from SoundMax. I might need to wait for them to update the drivers in future. I have tried the beta version but Windows 7 said not compatible.

regards,

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-11-2 20:51

64# maldini

I don't know the different.
Windows 7 let me install dual systems with Vista and I didn't re-do partition or reformat my hard drive.

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-11-3 16:06

63# pkphilip

My P5L-MX is using Analog Device AD1986A chip set from SoundMax. I might need to wait for them to update the drivers in future. I have tried the beta version but Windo ...
beaver 發表於 2009-11-2 21:48

my own experience is, on my dell laptop, windows 7 has no drivers for the video, sound, modem, network,
i use the windows xp version drivers downloaded from dell

i believe, windows 7 takes xp drivers

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-11-3 16:35

67# maanmo

Thanks for your advice.

I have the driver disk from Asus come with the board that has XP drivers. It doesn't work with Windows 7. I have another old machine (build in 2004) running AMD 1.7G that all drivers installed without any problem. Wonder why somebody don't like Vista and now Windows 7.

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-11-3 19:19

本帖最後由 maanmo 於 2009-11-3 20:20 編輯

67# maanmo

Thanks for your advice.

I have the driver disk from Asus come with the board that has XP drivers. It doesn't work with Windows 7. I have another old machine (build in 2004) running AM ...
beaver 發表於 2009-11-3 17:35

i guess there are some sound cards  which use xp drivers that do not work in vista and windows 7

if that is the case, why not disable the sound on the motherboard, and plug in  a sound blaster card

people are throwing away a lot of pentium 4 computers these days , some have removable sound cards.
at the computer recycling place www.freegeekvancouver.org
one can          buy a sound blaster card for $5
if $5 is too much for you, they throw away a lot of sound cards that are  less full featured but are  perfectly good ,
you can buy  these cheaper sound blaster card for a $1
you may have to visit the freegeek store and look for these cards in the card sorting area
there you will find sound cards  destined for scrap, but still have xp drivers perfectly acceptable by vista ,windows 7
( you safe bet is old  sound blaster cards )

作者: pkphilip 時間: 2009-11-3 22:07

My experience with some old computer is that, once Windows Update is done, it will automatically find the drivers... even my Lexmark parallel printer that does not have Windows Vista/7 support.

Philip

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-11-4 10:34

69# maanmo

Thanks maanmo,

So sad, I have two sound blaster live and they are not working too.

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-11-4 15:56

69# maanmo

Thanks maanmo,

So sad, I have two sound blaster live and they are not working too.
beaver 發表於 2009-11-4 11:34

there is nothing sad...  windows 7 is about hope,

and sound blaster  should be blastering  live  not dead

fine tuning the hardware for windows 7 is  acceptable
maanmo 's installations of vista were quite mute,, i finally used a $1 sound card and with extracted drivers from
windows xp

and    the trial error  i had to go through toget windows 7 to use the nvidia go 2  , 32mb video card  can be
quite discouraging

i still think the solution to the sound problem in windows 7 , is to try some sound cardswith xp drivers , vista drivers
one must bumble a bit

for some reason,  getting a driver for sound blaster live  from the manufacturer website seems to be dead end
but here is one website maanmo found by google
http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/SOUND-CARD/CREATIVE/Creative-Sound-Blaster-Live-Driver-1040055.shtml

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-11-5 02:48

72# maanmo

Thanks maanmo.

I have tried the above drivers and doesn't have any luck.

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-11-5 16:51

there is some discussion on soundblaster live and windows 7
http://www.sevenforums.com/sound ... rrible-sound-5.html

its a long thread, even maanmo begin to think its sad sad sad,
playing with windows 7 begin to look like a funeral

but in the final words of the discussion there is hope
""""
KX Project drivers have been around for quite a while and work just fine in Vista
and 7...
I'm still running a SoundBlaster Live value and solved the crackling issue by installing these.
"""

The kX Audio Driver is an independent WDM (Windows Driver Model) driver for all EMU10K1 and EMU10K2-based soundcards manufactured by Creative Technology Ltd. and/or E-mu Systems Inc., including the SoundBlaster Live! series, the E-mu Audio Production Studio (APS) card, and the Audigy / Audigy2 series of cards. (Full List).
http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/

作者: beaver 時間: 2009-11-6 11:56

74# maanmo

Thanks a lot maanmo.

Will try after I re-install the Windows 7.

作者: maanmo 時間: 2009-11-6 17:17

re installing windows 7 is so much fun,

this summer , i downloaded 3 or 4 versions of windows 7, install, reinstall, and reinstall
ah so much fun, finally attaining the blissful state of genunineity

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