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作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-23 12:49 標題: 12% HST on everything!? INSANE! (starting July1, 2010)

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-7-23 13:53 編輯

http://news.google.ca/news/more? ... EDhSM8JAsaETdGuCCRM

"This is the single biggest thing we can do to improve B.C.'s economy," said Campbell.

oh Fxck U!

作者: lizzie 時間: 2009-7-23 12:51

So not fair, that means we will have to start paying 12 per cent on meals when they currently only charge GST . Talk about economic stimulation.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-23 12:56

consumers will see point-of-sales HST rebates on the following goods:

Gasoline and diesel fuel for motor vehicles.

Books.

Children's-sized clothing and footwear.

Children's car seats and car booster seats.

Diapers and feminine hygiene products.

WTF? Diapers and feminine hygiene products?? How about men's shaver and shaving cream? Insane....

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-7-23 12:57

every one can start to wear Children's-sized clothing and footwear.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-7-23 13:01

To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]

Dear Mr. Campbell and Mr. Hansen,

I am deeply concerned about the negative financial impact the proposed 12% HST will have on the typical average BC resident. In particular, I am deeply concerned about how it will affect the lives of the more grassroot people in BC.

Firstly, let me assure you that I am not fundamentally against combining the PST and GST into a single HST. I understand that doing so will vastly simply matters for local businesses when they remit tax dollars to the government. However, given that a large number of daily necessities and basics of living -- most notably food and groceries -- are currently PST-exempt, but will be subjected to the HST when it comes into place, the amount of money an average consumer will spend on the bare necessities of daily living will inevitably increase by at least a whopping 7%. This impact will be felt immediately, and for the poor and less privileged, the financial stress of this additional 7% will be especially painful.

May I ask the Honourable Mr. Campbell, the Honourable Mr. Hansen, and the BC Liberal Party, how do you intend to deal with this negative impact on the poor? And how do you intend to assist them so that they will not be negatively affected by this new policy? If your intent is to simplify matters for businesses and boost their efficiency, why are you adopting a policy that will simultaneously hurt the poor? When somebody steals from the poor and less privileged, can the same person still claim to be "honourable"?!

As I was saying earlier, I am not fundamentally against the HST. I just want to know how Mr. Campbell, Mr. Hansen, and the BC Liberal Party intend to shield the poor and less privileged from the negative impact this proposal brings before pledging my support for the proposal. Perhaps the income tax basic personal amount can be increased by an additional 7%? Or perhaps the provincial government can issue HST rebates to compensate for the exta 7% that every BC resident must pay when HST comes into effect? Best of all, may I suggest that Mr. Campbell, Mr. Hansen, and every Liberal MLA lead by example and automatically subject themselves to a 7% pay cut *AND* donate a further 7% of their MLA salary to charity to help the poor when the HST comes into effect? If such measures can be taken, I will personally do everything in my power to both vote for and influence others to vote for the BC Liberals in the next election. If not, I'm afraid I cannot support a party that goes against my principles, and will do everything I can to persuade others to keep the BC Liberals out of the provincial government.

Ah Lik of Vancouver, BC

作者: B仔 時間: 2009-7-23 13:02

every one can start to wear Children's-sized clothing and footwear.
myversa 發表於 2009-7-23 13:57

我開始咗好耐啦～～～

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-7-23 13:03

Write to Gordon Campbell, Colin Hansen, and CC copies of your letters to your MLA and Carole James to complain about sales tax changes. It's the least you can do.

Find your MLA's contact info here:
http://www.leg.bc.ca/MLA/index.htm

-Lik

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-23 13:06

本帖最後由 ACC-HE 於 2009-7-23 14:10 編輯

.... feel raped, yet there's nothing we can do.

Must be the stupid olympic...

So restaurants, for example, will have to start charging 12 per cent on meals when they currently only charge the GST on the meal and the combined PST and GST on alcohol, Bonney said.

http://www.vancouversun.com/busi ... /1820717/story.html

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-7-23 13:14

Um .. but it replace PST + GST ?

I think GST is for whole country anyway?

but then GST + PST is 12% now anyway .. so .. no different?

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-7-23 13:14

当日好多LYK话要選自由黨o架！早就說过佢係愛金省長啦，死唔伩！

叫佢自己減人工啦！

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-23 13:16

Um .. but it replace PST + GST ?

I think GST is for whole country anyway?

but then GST + PST is 12% now anyway .. so .. no different?
Catpiano 發表於 2009-7-23 14:14

...you don't live in BC right?

just think of how many things you buy in BC that has no PST (meals in restaurant) or no tax (grocery)!

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2009-7-23 13:19

We need to move back to Hong Kong.........
Taxes are killing everyone living in BC.........

作者: Catpiano 時間: 2009-7-23 13:22

But it said " it will remove over $2 billion in costs "

??  so .. this HSP is to help small business in BC ?

If this is the case, we may pay a bit more on tax on food etc, but save a lots on the other hand wor ...

Oh .. 吳孟達  ..  you are the new Mr. T ? lol

作者: heykevin 時間: 2009-7-23 13:23

It seems complicated
http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_releases_2009-2013/2009PREM0017-000141.pdf

作者: 吳孟達 時間: 2009-7-23 13:24

If I dine out 2 times a week, spending $40 each time. I will spend $3840 a year just for dining.

With only paying GST, I will pay $192 each year.
With HST applied, I will pay $460.8 a year.

I will pay $268.8 more after this HST kick in.

Campbell, please give the King Crab meal back to me !!!

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-7-23 13:26

how about buying houses?

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-23 13:27

Let's all stop working before we become 'high income'....

作者: 布小熊 時間: 2009-7-23 13:28

ok... answering my own question again:
And buyers of new homes will receive a partial rebate up to a maximum of $20,000.
So no one will buy expansive new houses any more.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-23 13:38

However, Hansen said the provincial tax is often imbedded in goods, even though consumers can't see it on the sticker price. He said the cost savings businesses will get from this move should be passed on to consumers.

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an ... ?hub=TorontoNewHome

on really.............. in your dreams!

作者: maclover 時間: 2009-7-23 14:03

so...even buying meal @ food court/stupid already expensive rogers bill need to pay 12%?

作者: 快樂牛郎 時間: 2009-7-23 14:29

once it's implemented, you won't feel the difference

ppl complain the most before implementation

so if you want something done, just roll it out asap

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-23 14:32

Um .. but it replace PST + GST ?

I think GST is for whole country anyway?

but then GST + PST is 12% now anyway .. so .. no different?
Catpiano 發表於 2009-7-23 14:14

You Albertians don't know how it works la...it's a huge difference!!!

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-23 14:33

whoever voted for Campbell....feel stupid now???

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-23 15:05

So buying a 800k house you need to pay 20k more than before even with the 20k rebate!

It's definitely gonna fuel the RE market...RE hype again...sigh

作者: lifegoeson 時間: 2009-7-23 15:11

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an ... ?hub=TorontoNewHome

on really.............. in your dreams!
ACC-HE 發表於 2009-7-23 14:38

Yes, this will never happen. Everything will be more expensive at the end..

作者: Purpleheart 時間: 2009-7-23 15:15

2009 年度最可信電視廣告:

" 金寶耳 " 一路對市民的銀包俯視耽耽 "

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-23 15:21

But it said " it will remove over $2 billion in costs "

?? so .. this HSP is to help small business in BC ?

If this is the case, we may pay a bit more on tax on food etc, but save a lots on the o ...
Catpiano 發表於 2009-7-23 14:22

don't get tricked by these politicians! I'm not sure how they come up with this 2 billion savings...but I know everybody here needs to pay more tax and this sum is huge that will increase along with inflation...mind you grocery cost has increased A LOT in the last few of years.

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-23 15:31

politicians = liars

from: http://www.crfa.ca/news/bytopic/ ... e_parties_stand.htm

GST/PST harmonization

1. Will your party oppose harmonizing GST with PST in British Columbia?

BC Liberal Party:

While some British Columbians have suggested that a harmonized PST and GST might be beneficial, others have pointed out that it would extend the PST tax base to a broader range of goods and services that are presently exempt from provincial sales tax.

Such items that are currently PST exempt include energy efficient appliances, membership fees for clubs and gyms, newspapers and magazines, taxi fares, restaurant food, and the professional services of architects and accountants. This is a major concern.

The BC Liberals are also mindful that a harmonized GST would reduce the provincial government’s ability to unilaterally adjust sales tax rates. The harmonized GST would make it harder for future provincial governments to lower or raise sales tax rates, which reduces flexibility.

In short, a harmonized GST is not something that is contemplated in the BC Liberal platform, but we are committed to improving the tax system.

作者: maclover 時間: 2009-7-23 15:33

2009 年度最可信電視廣告:

" 金寶耳 " 一路對市民的銀包俯視耽耽 "
Purpleheart 發表於 2009-7-23 16:15

HAHA!!! so true!

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-23 15:58

I think they really screw up the Olympic budget...

then use this Si Q to Gap more water from our wallet...

作者: Littleprince 時間: 2009-7-23 17:32

every one can start to wear Children's-sized clothing and footwear.
myversa 發表於 2009-7-23 13:57

你錯了﹐好多細路好大隻架。。。我有個女性朋友﹐係白種人黎﹐她就是買親任何衫﹐都話買比自己個女﹐話個女同自己一樣 SIZE

作者: tofu 時間: 2009-7-23 18:13

i am confused about the rebate. is it we will get rebate on the items that don't require to pay pst now. how about at the custom, do they charge hst + duty for out of province residents as well.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-7-23 21:41

http://www.vancouversun.com/busi ... /1821999/story.html

What gets taxed: PST-exempt goods and services to be subject to B.C.’s harmonized sales tax

Vancouver Sun
July 23, 2009

The following goods and services are currently exempt from provincial sales tax (PST), but will be subject to the full 12-per-cent harmonized sales tax when it is implemented next July. With the new HST, businesses will be able to recover the PST portion of the tax they currently pay, rather than passing it on to consumers as part of the price of these items. Theoretically, that should mean that prices for these goods will come down by seven per cent as they become subject to the full tax.

GOODS

• Residential fuels (electricity, natural gas) and heating.
• Basic cable TV and residential phones.
• All food products (only basic groceries will remain exempt under new tax).
• Non-prescription medication.
• Vitamins and dietary supplements.
• Bicycles.
• School supplies (books will continue to be exempt).
• Magazines and newspapers.
• Work-related safety equipment.
• Safety helmets, life jackets, first-aid kits.
• Smoke detectors and fire extinguishers.
• Energy conservation equipment (e.g., insulation, solar power equipment).

SERVICES

• Personal services such as hair care.
• Dry cleaning.
• Repair services for household appliances.
• Household maintenance such as renovations and painting.
• Real estate fees.
• Membership fees for health clubs.
• Movie and theatre tickets.
• Funeral services.
• Professional services such as accounting and home care.
• Airline fares within Canada.

作者: elan7e 時間: 2009-7-23 22:07

新民主黨敗家
自由黨搶錢

那麽我應該選邊一個黨？

作者: fm9610 時間: 2009-7-23 22:09

本帖最後由 fm9610 於 2009-7-23 23:16 編輯

33# Lik

I thought we are not the first province to implement this harmonized tax? We are just following Toronto's example which they call single sales tax (like almost everything else!).

I am not against the tax, just feel bad when because the mplementation has not gone through a democratic vote.

作者: kingsway 時間: 2009-7-23 22:26

33# Lik

I thought we are not the first province to implement this harmonized tax? We are just following Toronto's example which they call single sales tax (like almost everything else!).

I am ...
fm9610 發表於 2009-7-23 23:09

Me too.. I am very mad that how this BC primer can always come out with change of policies without asking public consent and vote first.

Crazy world... I wonder that why we have so less parties to vote for in BC..

作者: masterbear 時間: 2009-7-23 22:29

make things complicated again and again and bring someone making tons of $$$

作者: mcs889 時間: 2009-7-23 22:33

yeah its all because the olympic

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-7-23 22:52

The Atlantic provinces have long had HST, and it looks like Ontario and BC are doing this together now.

I am not against the principles of the HST, and I certainly see how it can simplify matters for businesses. The problem is, improvements in business efficiency cannot be had at the expense of the poor and those who are in need. That is simply not right.

In the absence of public outrage and pressure, the Liberal government will likely just let the scheme run its own natural course, meaning that the poor will suffer the heaviest blow as a result of an effective 7% sales tax increase. With enough public backlash, I suspect the Liberal government will roll out some sort of rip off scheme where tax payers will be asked to retain copies of all their sales receipts and re-claim some of this sales tax back from the provincial government when filing their annual income taxes. Naturally, this will be administrative nightmare, and the Liberal government knows that

1) a large number of people, especially the poor and under-privileged, will not bother to do this, therefore further marginalizing themselves
2) those who do keep track will likely miss out on a least a port of the receipts, meaning that the provincial government will still not need to remit a sizable portion of these tax dollars back into the pockets of BC residents

As Elan was saying, NDP is useless and the Liberals are greedy. Which of these two apples is less rotten?

-Lik

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-7-23 23:15

34# elan7e

敗咗佢好过益啲商家有錢佬同愛金省長！

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-7-24 07:43

The worst business will be the restaurant business......

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-7-24 07:44

你錯了﹐好多細路好大隻架。。。我有個女性朋友﹐係白種人黎﹐她就是買親任何衫﹐都話買比自己個女﹐話個女同自己一樣 SIZE
Littleprince 發表於 2009-7-23 18:32

I was just kidding since it says only children's clothing is exempted.

作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2009-7-24 08:10

more under the table

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-7-24 08:32

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/fp/What+gets+taxed+exempt+goods+services+subject+harmonized+sales/1821999/story.html

What gets taxed: PST-exempt goods and services to be subject to B.C.’s harmo ...
Lik 發表於 2009-7-23 21:41

From your article, it sounds to me tho, that we've always been paying PST on food and such anyways then? It's was just embedded into the food prices? If that's the case, HST or GST + PST it's all gonna be the same...?

What we need to figure out is, what is currently truly GST only (nobody pays, retailer or consumer). Further more, we need to figure out what was truly GST only and is going to become HST. That, to me, is the net difference of what we will be made to pay more.

Besides, if the province want to increase their tax base, there's nth 'wrong' about it (Aside from the execution perhaps). What, you want them to be like NDP and just increase stimulus and reduce tax at the same time for literally forever until we have to issue IOU like California?

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-7-24 10:38

This is just another cash grab. Just like the gas tax, carbon tax, transit tax, what excuses will they think of next?

作者: bbqfish 時間: 2009-7-24 10:45

I was just kidding since it says only children's clothing is exempted.
myversa 發表於 2009-7-24 08:44

actually, what's the definition for children? 12 and under? or 18 and under??

作者: news 時間: 2009-7-24 11:03

u get rebate on quite a few things and the poor can get the hst credit back...so its not bad

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-24 11:20

u get rebate on quite a few things and the poor can get the hst credit back...so its not bad
news 發表於 2009-7-24 12:03

What can I get rebate on besides buying a new house over 400k? How many people qualify for HST credit and what's the requirement?

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-24 11:27

From your article, it sounds to me tho, that we've always been paying PST on food and such anyways then? It's was just embedded into the food prices? If that's the case, HST or GST + PST it's all go ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2009-7-24 09:32

Who can guarantee that the businesses will lower their prices for not having to pay PST themselves?

Also, taxing more and more just means the government will waste more and more.

Olympics is a black hole, as I expected! From history, how many organizers can get the full benefit back or even break-even?

作者: news 時間: 2009-7-24 11:32

What can I get rebate on besides buying a new house over 400k? How many people qualify for HST credit and what's the requirement?
shutterbug 發表於 2009-7-24 11:20

read the article?

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-7-24 11:54

Who can guarantee that the businesses will lower their prices for not having to pay PST themselves?

Also, taxing more and more just means the government will waste more and more.

Olympics is a blac ...
shutterbug 發表於 2009-7-24 11:27

I don't trust the gov't. However, the gov't is already in deficit because of various simulus activity that the public have urged them to engage. I personally is not a fan of big gov't nor socialism. However if they did in the end run into budget deficit via simulus, then I rather they quickly balance their budget as soon as the economic condition is slightly better, rather than to continue down a path of ever more debt.

Gov't are a-holes, I agree. But sometimes I'm even more tired of portion of the population who only think of themselves, think short term and 又食又拎. The bunch that 為反對而反對 is even more counter-productive (example, BC NDPs).

On this case only, I don't think it's a brilliant move, but I don't think it warrant that much of a concern either.

Some selected quotes from http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Articl ... 0723?hub=TopStories

BC spokesman for Canadian Taxpayer Federation: "In theory, it's a good thing. In the short term it's bad for families, but over the long run it should help with economic growth and increase incentives to work and invest in the province," she said.

"The Business Council of B.C. applauded the tax marriage, saying the current system is outdated, inefficient and imposes heavy compliance burdens on B.C. businesses."

"Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters (CME) said the new tax system will help make B.C. exports more competitive in global markets."

作者: mary123 時間: 2009-7-24 11:54

Next July, we have to pay 12% HST for all goods and service. Every tourist come here have to pay more than now. This HST brings a big impact to Tourist Business, Service Business and all citizen like us.

The living cost becomes higher and higher. People will move out Vancouver. The tax will be more and more because of the decrease of population. Don't forget the charcoal tax will be double next year. Who can live in here?

God bless us ..

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-24 12:23

BG your quotes are from the business side and it does not represent most of the citizens. I guess you might want to include some quotes from the service sector where the casualty lies.

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-7-24 12:25

BG your quotes are from the business side and it does not represent most of the citizens. I guess you might want to include some quotes from the service sector where the casualty lies.
shutterbug 發表於 2009-7-24 12:23

Canadian Taxpayer's Federation is not representing business views. It's 'supposingly' taxpayer's view.

I mean, if you are really concerned, they are more or less the first people you should ping. They are supposingly the ones that should fight for our (taxpayer's) cause.

作者: starbug 時間: 2009-7-24 12:39

新民主黨敗家
自由黨搶錢

那麽我應該選邊一個黨？
elan7e 發表於 2009-7-23 23:07

新民主黨敗家嚟益自已友
自由黨搶錢之餘都做番本份, 咁你話嘞.

作者: starbug 時間: 2009-7-24 12:42

好嘢!! LYK 可以交多D稅!! 呀托生泉下有知一定好心涼.

作者: daimo 時間: 2009-7-24 12:48

新民主黨敗家嚟益自已友
自由黨搶錢之餘都做番本份, 咁你話嘞.
starbug 發表於 2009-7-24 13:39

If I were in the Union, I'll definitely vote for the NDP.

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-24 12:57

As much as I hate the new tax, I'm still not a fan of NDP....

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-7-24 14:55

Here's the reply from the premier's office:

OfficeofthePremier, Office PREM:EX <[email protected]>    Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:44 PM
To: Ah Lik <[email protected]>

Thank you for your email regarding a 12% harmonized sales tax (HST) in British Columbia.  Your concerns over any impact on the middle- and low-income family have been noted.

The harmonization of the GST with the PST will save our businesses more than $2 billion dollars as it makes them more competitive, encourages new investment and lowers administrative costs – all of which will increase economic prosperity and create more jobs in British Columbia.

The current PST is a costly and inefficient tax, almost half of which is hidden in the price of goods and services and paid by consumers.  Evidence from the Atlantic provinces shows that the hidden tax is removed very quickly with the introduction of a harmonized tax, with the majority of savings passed through to consumers in the first year.  B.C. would have the lowest HST in Canada:  all other provinces with an HST, and the one proposed by Ontario, have a rate of 13 percent.

The other good news is that the full cost of administration would be taken care of by the federal government, and with the adoption of the HST, our province would receive $1.6 billion from Ottawa to use as it sees fit.  In today’s current global economic downturn, this funding would help us to ensure that vital social services can continue to be provided.

It should also be emphasized that low-income families will receive a refund cheque four times a year to compensate for the HST, in addition to the federal GST cheques and the B.C. carbon tax credit cheques.

Since 2001, the B.C. government has taken significant steps to reduce taxes for families and improve the national and international competitiveness of our businesses.  The overall tax burden is generally the second lowest in all of Canada for B.C. families and will remain so after the introduction of the HST.

Again, thank you for taking the time to express your views and we hope this information is helpful.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-7-24 15:05

A lot of government-embellished, candy-coated talk here, but at least it is good to see that low-income families will receive a refund cheque to compensate for the HST. This is a piece of information that I have never seen being reported in the various news articles I've read.

The thing is, however, how is a "low-income family" determined? And how is the amount of HST refund calculated? I'd like to find out what the calculation is based on, and while I am not really afraid of digging into government documents to find out, the process will obviously be tedious, and I will most likely not understand the account terms and methods of calculations well enough to know whether the math is reasonably fair.

-Lik

作者: ACC-HE 時間: 2009-7-24 15:07

oh... the Garp Sum level is toasted again...

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-7-24 15:28

A lot of government-embellished, candy-coated talk here, but at least it is good to see that low-income families will receive a refund cheque to compensate for the HST. This is a piece of information ...
Lik 發表於 2009-7-24 16:05

The so-called rebate was already reported on every media.

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-7-24 15:35

so everyone should not work to become low-income family...

it's always the middle-income family hurts (low-income has great assistance and high-income does not care)

作者: BiscottiGelato 時間: 2009-7-24 16:11

yes. abolish min wage, abolish all those welfare. It seems people survive okay collecting cardboard boxes in HK, no~? Then, we can go low taxes as all of us have wished for...

But then, if that's what you want, might as well go back to HK?
There's always going to be more assistance for the poor. Suck it up and put your mind in how to become those high-income that doesn't care ba!!@

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-7-24 16:42

They need to learn from Hong Kong/Singapore where the lower taxes are able to attract more foreign investors.

作者: tobiko 時間: 2009-7-25 09:27

I thought the housing tax is called some other form of tax (and not GST or PST) so I don't quite understand how exactly this come into place with buying new houses then. Like how much more taxing when you buy a house more than 40k?

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-25 09:34

I thought the housing tax is called some other form of tax (and not GST or PST) so I don't quite understand how exactly this come into place with buying new houses then. Like how much more taxing whe ...
tobiko 發表於 2009-7-25 10:27

I think the type of tax you are talking about is property transfer tax. Google it to find out what it is. It a different tax.

作者: Lik 時間: 2009-7-25 09:58

They need to learn from Hong Kong/Singapore where the lower taxes are able to attract more foreign investors.
peter236 發表於 2009-7-24 16:42

Have you even looked at the level and quality of social services that is available in Canada and in Hong Kong? Think a little before blurting out your nonsense la, ng goi~

-Lik

作者: hahavancouver 時間: 2009-7-25 21:37

HST kill us.

作者: maldini 時間: 2009-7-25 21:49

本帖最後由 maldini 於 2009-7-25 22:50 編輯

Why didn't they do this earlier, if the tax is good for business?

作者: mollinbaggio 時間: 2009-7-25 22:04

Let's join my group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=106696892686and http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=125755301797 .Whenever we experienced hard time from economic crisis,the Gordon Campbell Government added pay for their own employees with big percentage!

作者: peter236 時間: 2009-7-27 23:42

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-7-28 00:51 編輯

Have you even looked at the level and quality of social services that is available in Canada and in Hong Kong? Think a little before blurting out your nonsense la, ng goi~

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2009-7-25 10:58

Hong Kong's quality of social services is among the best in the world. You can claim that Canada's level is higher, but at what cost? The government here is in debt at all levels. In HK, the max tax rate is about 15%, but only the highest income earners pay that rate. Most people pay less than 10%, if at all. Here, the HST is already 12% and that is on your after tax disposable income.

作者: news 時間: 2009-7-28 07:10

Hong Kong's quality of social services is among the best in the world. You can claim that Canada's level is higher, but at what cost? The government here is in debt at all levels. In HK, the max tax ...
peter236 發表於 2009-7-27 23:42

can u please elaboarte on the quality of social services in hong kong?

作者: Siu-Leung 時間: 2009-7-28 10:23

自由黨用心良苦.......

甘願背負眾人責罵，公報加稅，就係想大家係明年7月前盡快「有得食就食，有得著就著」，不論生人死地，都將會加稅。

咁即係叫大家7月之前，增加消費，推動經濟。有樓買樓，有山地買山地。至少到2010年中，全球經濟復甦之前靠本土消費渡過難關。

明年7月，明年再講，到時將必定一番新境像。

作者: eslmath 時間: 2009-7-30 13:11

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作者: habitrailspace 時間: 2009-7-30 13:22

加拿大加稅老友記抵死!!!
eslmath 發表於 2009-7-30 14:11

你傻得好可愛

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-7-30 21:29

NDP came up with this petition, please sign...

http://www.bcndpcaucus.ca/en/StoptheHST

作者: Ovaltine 時間: 2009-7-31 05:21

作者: AAC 時間: 2009-8-4 11:16

本帖最後由 AAC 於 2009-8-4 12:17 編輯

NDP came up with this petition, please sign...

http://www.bcndpcaucus.ca/en/StoptheHST
shutterbug 發表於 2009/7/30 22:29

Any neutral organization/pressure group is running no HST petition other than NDP ?
I try to keep a distance with NDP despites I don't like Gordon Campbell too.

作者: shutterbug 時間: 2009-8-4 11:35

Any neutral organization/pressure group is running no HST petition other than NDP ?
I try to keep a distance with NDP despites I don't like Gordon Campbell too.
AAC 發表於 2009-8-4 12:16

For the time being, it doesn't matter whether it's NDP or not, the main goal is to get Liberals to reconsider. Signing this petition doesn't mean you agree with NDP's politics. The most powerful group right now is probably the NDP since they're the opposition and this is in their interest.

作者: myversa 時間: 2009-11-19 15:55

THE DATE WAS POSTPONED FROM JULY 1 TO NOV 8

作者: CWong 時間: 2009-11-19 15:59

No difference!

作者: PSP550 時間: 2009-11-19 16:33

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作者: myversa 時間: 2009-11-19 20:33

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