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as brake wears down, brake will bite at a lower point, such like if there is air in the brake fluid system ~ so it's "softer" feel too....

as clutch wears down, clutch will bite at a HIGHER point, such like if there is air in the clutch fluid system ~ so it's "heavier" feel too...

now i dunno how many have driven a manual car, gone thru a set of clutch and put back "STOCK" replacement clutch ~ it will be so light and feelingLESS; as it gets wear down it will be stiffer and stiffer...

of course, soft brake feel and stiff clutch feel could also be because of bad pad / rotors / master cylinder or pressure plate, clutch master or slave cylinders...

clutch might not slip, just like brake might not fade when it's completely done; usually it will be harder to go into gear but it might not grind (grind only states that it has bad synchro's, replacing clutch usually won't fix); shutter could be because flywheel, clutch disc / pressure plate ~ or even engine / transmission mount as the clutch bites too hard and mount is letting go of the power (this usually only happens when u have a higher performance clutch or badly worn mounts)...

i have done toyota matrix xrs with 51k and the clutch is completely gone, pretty owner bought it to learn how to drive stick and my friend got his for "cheap" (counted the clutch replacement cost into his buying cost, as it's expected)...

also RSX at 60k, bettle at 58k, WRX at 58k, etc....u just never know how the prev owner drives!

worn clutch is usually heavy, doesn't grip as good while new clutch would be so light but it bites!

it's hard to explain maybe u can buy the camry i will do ur clutch then u can experience it

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have driven 93-95 gen Camry V6 3.0 5MT, that car pulls very hard but it's like a boat, no doubt the clutch for it was stiff, but it was a car with 100k when i drove!

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depends on what year shutterbug has noticed, but toyota nowaday is not as well built as the old one....

have done transmission, engine, steering rack, starter (this has been toyota's problem FOREVER) on 00+ cars (all with about 100k or less when problem existed), O2 sensor on 02+ cars with less than 70k (unfortunately the car is over 3 years)

even a gas pedal sensor can break on a 03 camry with only 55k, make the car starts but can't accelerate, $700 or sth repair! can't drive without repair, what a ****ty deal!

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the stupid accelerator pedal position sensor was only .5 for labor, but $6xx for parts!

yet when it breaks u have no choice, car is not going anywhere

i know the starter contact is easy to do on toyota's (at least for most of them, but it's not fun when u have a GS400 and the intake manifold has to come off, etc)...

how often does honda have to change? or subaru? or mazda? or nissan? or any other major make ~ to change their starter contacts? overall like u said it's not a big problem but it's somewhat a very stupid design ~ high maintenance lol....

the steering rack was leaking for that 04 sienna, at 72k, passed the 3 years 60k and dealer says it was not under warranty....

according to mitchell on demand, to do camry's clutch is 13.8 hours; assume most place do it between $60 to $120, u will be looking at $800 to $1800 labor (cuz $120 would be dealership, shop supplies, taxes on the top)...that's not including parts or machine flywheel

let me know if u have picked up one of those, i would like to see what makes it so hard lol

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well that's for 4 cylinder and clutch work hour is not available for a 04/05 Camry V6....u better show me how to do that in about 6 hours, i would like to learn

most FWD cars like civic / integra / echo etc usually from 4.5 to 6.5 hours and it's actually quite ridiculous and i am shocked when i see the hour in mitchell on demand...it was saying "inc r&i engine and transmission" lol...

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oh working at a dealership is different some time, tech gets to remember what exact tools needed to be used (even tho we can remember most of those more popular one); they will probably encounter the same issue earlier than us (such like something is not willing to come off etc)...

i have seen a "korean brand" dealership having so much fun with a mazda, cuz the tech is only used to their own brand when other makes come in, he becomes clueless...

book time to do 98-01 camry's clutch job is only 6.8 hours, getting done in around 6 hours makes sense....

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the first thing i read on mitchell on demand is:

remove engine with transaxle assy; guess it's quite similiar to the 03 Camry we had replaced the engine, it will be much easier to drop the whole thing and do it on the ground...lol