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This topic is never gonna end. Over and over, people either from china aggressively educated me that HK are just the same. We are all Chinese and we should stand strong together blah blah blah. THEN, again and again, their behavior just drive me nut.

I know we should not be racist and I know we are all Chinese but when their rude behaviors become repetitive and they still think they are alright. I just cannot tolerate them at all.

I understand what you guys are trying to point out and yes, that's the weak arguement point. Not all China people like that, my friend are from CHina, they ain't like that or my bf is from china and they are very educated and polite. I'm sick of hear that for I tried to convinced myself the same way but................ like my argument on facebook...........

Okay, I know there are "some" people are polite and educated from China. Just like my co-worker they are graduated from "ching wa university" and I respect them not because of their education but their manner. Okay, Just like my caveman, he is from guazhou and so does his cousin (almost like his big sister as they grow up together)...they are very polite and very educated ................but.......................

People keep telling me oh, the population in China is huge. The chance you ran into rude China people are high. Talking about percentage................ I dare to say majority of people from China are rude, only minority are educated. How about the ratio? 2:8?
or 1:9?

And the funny thing is, I went to China for vacation last year with caveman. His relative are loud and luckily, not as bad as those who speak mandarin in Richmond. Then...................here comes the funny thing, the cantonese speaker blame that it's the "northern" people that are uneducated but unfortunately, those "nau loi" are the group that make guazhou rich and busy.....

And when I come back to Vancouver, I had a dinner with my good friend. His girlfriend is from the north and he totally into her and her culture. His dad has factory in China too....then he told me, really? I think it's the Southern part of China are rude. People from the north are very polite and educated.....................

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Because that's the "slavery" spirit of Chinese, they bow in front of western people and pretend they are so "charm" that us honger criticize them and scream at other Chinese.

They just generally "scare the strongest, and hit the weakest".

I am not sure if you guys remember me mentioned the car incident happened to me and caveman before. I screamed back at him and threaten him that i would just press 911 if he kept banging at my window. That night, caveman and I called 911 and we gave them a essay long note about how he threaten us and we feel that our lives were at risk. After that, I think the cop took a couple visit to their house and since then, they avoid eye contact with us and not dare to park in front of our house.

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matt72178,

I agree with what you said on this point. YES他 媽 的 ﹐ 0係 大 陸 3 條 線 行 五 架 車 都 得 既 。 This is what I experienced in my friend's car in China.

And in China, Caveman and I have to pretend we were one of them in order to survive. We ain't rude but we have to speak loud and tone our voice in order to bargain or else they will just "ha" us on everything.

We have no choice but push into the MTR or else we have to wait and wait.....
We have to "speak loud" to the waitress in the restaurant or else nobody serve us.

I hate that culture so much and I wonder when will they ever change???
It's like a virus. If 公德 is an antibiotic to this "virus", why can't they change?

The funny part is, have you ever seen things like these? I was in the city core of Guazhou, and there were police standing at the intersection "educate" people have to stop when it's red light. Walk across when it's green light. When the Police stop the woman from walking across when the red light on, the china lady scream and yell at the police like she is insane.......

With Olympic coming up, I have "no eye" see lor..... Of course, as a Chinese, I hope it will be a blast not a broadcast of shame la.

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Siumaibb,

I cannot make comment on Beijing as I never been to Beijing before but according to mandarin speaking people in Canada, not sure are they from Beijing or not, they are..............................way beyond from the word "uneducated"....

And when I took taxi in 廣州, I remember the driver said good morning to me and chat with me (perhaps it's early in the morning and he wanted to have a good day. Or perhaps, caveman's uncle is 'ling duo' (management) so that he was polite to me"

But when Caveman and I took a taxi to the city center, the mandarin driver made a sharp stop and scream at the driver at the front  "lei tai ma dei, you want to die? I will fxxk your mother puxxy , fxxking sh*t" in a very loud voice that I just keep silent and wish to get off from his car ASAP.....

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I think it's pointless to compare human = animal. It's true we are in "animal" class BUT then, human has something which make us much more superior than other animal which are moral and principle.

If you really have to said your dog won't poo on the street, then good for you. But isn't it you are suggesting mainlander are nothing closer to a dog since a dog won't poo on the street and they will???

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I was reviewing Chintendo clips at home on youtube last night and reviewing the comments.

I just completely speechless...

I mean, yes that's true, Hongers and Japanese was like that in the past too. Western people laugh at hongers and Japanese when we were on vacation in somewhere else. BUT we kept silence and learned from mistake and willing to prove to the world that we can be improve.

Now, China is going through the exact same procedure and the only different is they DENY what they are doing is wrong. Worst is, they FORCE and WANT the whole world to accept they are just being themselves...............

A lot of mainlander or older generation point out that Japan was a copycat in history too and a lot of their products including ship (according to my dad) was a joke to the world like China recently. I mean, you can laughed at japan on how they copy others idea BUT .........copying is one thing, at least they copy the ideas and enhance the whole structure to be better than the original brand (i.e. Camera)

How about China??? They copy others idea into a ****ty version and have no intention to make it better than the original idea. They just want to make more money out of it and end of story.

That's why I feel shameful sometimes when some mainlander was using Japan to protect themselves.

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原帖由 dkam22 於 2008-1-10 09:01 發表
we are just here to express some feeling jie...
how come recently posts in LYK end up arguing?? like the mother in law topic too!

It's always like that on LYK. People always pick on other when someone open a new thread. It ends up very discouraging lor.

Forum is a place for people to express their feeling without worrying too much.

What's wrong with that?

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原帖由 常在心 於 2008-1-4 16:10 發表
我對大部份中國大陸的朋友們, 越來越失望...

啱啱响Aberdeen food court食完lunch番公司.  喂点解大陸人咁鍾意打尖既呢? 好聲好氣同佢講,佢又仲惡過你。買雞亦啫,係要等架啦, 打一個尖快得幾多喎! 好討厭!

買完企 ...

and to be honest, I re-read 常在心. Honestly, I cannot feel any aggressive tone from him/her at all. He/she sounds very soft already...........

If opening a thread like these equal racist, what's the different from HK?
When TVB's fighting scenes hardly involved any blood, and any slightly violence scenes will be a big issue???

[ 本帖最後由 utopia 於 2008-1-15 13:06 編輯 ]

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Some incident happened last night and I think that link to the bad behavior of mainlander. I was waiting to get out of a parking lot (Chinese plaza), a gentleman stop his car and let me out (there is a huge line up behind him). Then the car behind him honk at him so loud...

Which make me remember my vacation in Guanzhou, I guess it's not the people that who want to be rude and ill manner. I remember I asked caveman's cousin who is a cop herself. Why do they have to drive like that? She said if you follow the rule, you will never able to get out.

It's a very collapsed society. When sympathies are used, people lose faith. How can people stop to help the weak, when you stop your car and try to help the bloody body on the highway; the bloody body jump on you with his gang and rob you; worst , kill you. How can you yield the other cars, when everybody honk at you when you do so?

Who to blame? I really don't know. Lately, a Australian born Chinese  convinced me slightly on my POV on mainlander. Well, I will try to tolerate their bad behavior but patience has a limit. Let's see the different.

It's not easy to manage a huge country like China; especially a lot of messes from previous leader. Communism seems to be the only way to centralize everybody in China. Yet, they also need to catch up with the economy; by catching up the economic, that somehow twist the rules of communism and turning to Capitalism.
I heard, the only way to be  a socialism, it is a necessary  route that one country need to started from communism --> Capitalism--->Socialism. However, it's easy to say but hard to achieve in reality. So far, I don't see any country had ever successfully transform into a socialism country. I see the hardship of managing this huge booming country. My tolerance is here, I just hope my fellow mainlander won't disappoint me and start realizing what they are doing is wrong.

I realize if I keep complaining about these mainlanders, I'm no different from those 憤青 who screaming about Nanking  war endlessly without contributing or find a way to progress. Well, I will try to stay calm.