chobit

I am hardly somone who is into polictical topics.., as I simply don't have the time and energy to do so.  I barely know enough about 6.4, but I am glad to be able to learn so much through LYK recently.  I feel like replying many of the posts, but I doubt I would able to keep up with the replies..!  Therefore, I just keep quiet and continue my reading instead.  However, I am glad to find many of the replies do share my same point of view.

While I don't agree with the method of killing for their own gains.., however we learn that killing does seem to be a necessary part of the process to make history.  I am not talking about the right/wrong here, but just want to stated the fact here.  I'll go back to some posts are replies... but please forgive me for now going to be able to reply them all back... later..

Well, I think I have to answer the question myself.

Canadian women in Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan got the vote in 1916. But, Canadian women did not get the full rights for general election  ...
rockypath 發表於 2009-6-8 01:43

chobit

For those who sort of agaist Elder Deng's wrong doing, I do believe this a some questions worth answering..!  What real options are avaiable at the time which can yield us a better China?

I have to say it sincerely after reading your post (nothing personal) – “you should find out more about 6.4 from different sources. Not just things happened in Beijing and at Tiananmen Square, but ...
rockypath 發表於 2009-6-6 23:52

chobit

But at the end, I think we stay here not  because solely because canada is a democracy country, but more because it is a country relatveily safe crimes activties, high quality education, stable economic, lower risk of civil war, chance of being invaded by other country, higher quality of heath care system, and good disease controls..!

I doubt China will be a place we would like to live in without all the good features I mention soley base having a democracy problem.

Democracy is also full of craps and corruptions, I think China just has to go slow and take in what's good in  Democracy, and keep what's already good and look forward to the best for it's people and the country.

I am sure it will take many more decades for China to become a country where us lucky Chinese-Candians think it's an ideal place to live our lives

總之用軍隊對付自己國家手無寸鐵既平民就點講都唔通。
d學生可能係玩大左，但係佢地唔抵死
最衰就係屈佢地顛覆政府，仲要殺左咁多人都唔認。

如果64中國政府無錯，加拿大都唔會有咁多香港人啦 ...
siumaibb 發表於 2009-6-5 09:21

chobit

Thanks FYI.  I agree with many of your opinions....!  Like you suggest the process for change can take long, and can't be rush...!  The key is as long as China is moving toward to become a better China, there are very little else we can ask for other than actually doing more real works to help China growth in person.

What can we do to help China.  Help those who are in needs, help the blinds, build schools, provide funding to help those who want to study to become teachers or educators, etc..!  I have friend who go back to China with his yearly vacation time to do short term mission in poor area in China to help the blinds or disable kids.

BTW, before we continues to compare the rich Countries like Canada/US to China.  Do you know there are still tons of Villages in China where people have to walk 5-6 hours daily up/down hills just to pick up their water supplies?

Well, I think I have to answer the question myself.

Canadian women in Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan got the vote in 1916. But, Canadian women did not get the full rights for general election  ...
rockypath 發表於 2009-6-8 01:43

chobit

It's sad that I can speak verbally far better than my writing skills...!  So, bare with me..!

First if my son is doing something he believe to be right, but yet in an incorrect timing, and cause his life, of course I will be very sad...!  But I can't ignore the fact that what my son involves could have caused many other deaths.  Sometimes, we like to draw a line between black and white with our own will, and would try to obtain our goals no matter how much damage it may caused...!  That speak for both the Chinese Governments, but also the students as well...!

Like someone else said it here, I don't think what the chinese government did to the students were right, but other also want to here from you Lik what are some of possible resolutions you can think of which you think can bring peace to both the Chinese Government and the students without affecting the stability of China at the time, and still allow China to be what it is right now?  Obviously.. what's done is done, so we can only go by a well educated guess..!

Speaking of countries like the US or Canada..!  Didn't they use us the Chinese to build rail-roads... what about the local indians... were they being treated pretty unfair ages ago...!  And it takes many years to get these countries to become such pretty good countries to live in!  They may had apolagize to their wrong doing, but that was after many years when the countries became well stable and when things are in their full controls.

Chobit,

本來我今朝好唔得閒，但係見到你個 post 就真係火都來埋。因為你身為人父，所以我就問你呢個問題：假如有個死靚仔今日爆咗入你屋企，用槍虐殺咗你個小朋友，然後再用架車輾過佢條屍。你自己雖然無親身睇見 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-8 08:38

chobit

2nd that.  Improving the life quality even for just the basic needs is far more important at the moment.  What good is it, if people don't even have breads, or other basic medical supplies.  What good is democracy people live there actually suffer more..!

I would suggest you to read up more but not just try to fulfill you hatred to CCP.

1)        Do you know China is the only historical great nation (empire) that was able to recover from its collapse and b ...
rockypath 發表於 2009-6-9 10:26

chobit

We wouldn't have Bush if what you said is true =(  It's just another game they play....


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their parliamentary system guarantees that no leader will ever be that crappy -- if they were utterly incapable, voters wouldn't voted them into Parliament in the first place.