中國冰壺女隊傳內訌 隊員與加籍教練屢爆不和 岳清爽, 女子

myversa

中國冰壺女隊傳內訌 隊員與加籍教練屢爆不和         2010年2月25日

http://www.mingpaovan.com/htm/News/20100225/vap1h.htm

【明報專訊】一次冬奧揭露深層次矛盾，今次的主角是中國女子冰壺隊，雖然最後一場分組賽以6比5力克美國，順利晉級4強，今日將與瑞典爭決賽權，但內地傳媒報道，4位「80後」女隊員和加籍主教練丹尼爾屢傳不和，丹尼爾更準備於6月約滿後離隊。

輸俄隊嘻嘻哈哈 教練怒髮衝冠

今次風波源於倒數第2場分組賽，中國姑娘挾世錦賽冠軍之名，竟然4比7負於弱旅俄羅斯，4名隊員王冰玉、周妍、岳清爽和柳萌賽後嘻皮笑臉，毫不在乎，令丹尼爾怒髮衝冠：「她們只覺得比賽是工作，比賽完等於放工，根本不熱愛這種運動；我不明白她們怎麼想。」

隊長王冰玉也不甘示弱，高調地說：「我承認我不是一個好學生。」亦有傳聞指，王冰玉英文不俗，抵達溫哥華後多次以英語接受外國傳媒訪問，令其他隊員不滿，認為王愛「博出鏡」。

中國冬季運動管理中心表示會調查事件。

myversa

Pete, I think you totally misunderstood.  The article is not talking about their achievement or how fast they learn curling.  It's about the passion about the sports.  No matter how fast they improve themselves or how good they play in few years, if they do not have passion for the sports, why do they go to Olympics?

myversa

I think you need to read again what I wrote. I just asked how does Lik know that they have insufficient passion for the game from the spectator's perspective? According to Lik, he claimed the speed s ...
peter236 發表於 2010-2-25 17:26

He knows that from the news I posted.  It could be wrong and it could be right; of course we can only tell by the news media.  You did post some news from China and were they all true?  Who knows right?  We can only judge from the media.  Of course if you know them personally or other news stated otherwise, you can say it otherwise.  Then, you cannot say they have passion just because everything about China is good in your eye.

myversa

I think you got it wrong.

If you want to enjoy the game, just do it in your backyard.  Why go to the Olympics?

Olympics is one business.  And this business is about winning medals.
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-2-25 17:53

I could be wrong but if you do not have enough passion, how can you give your 100%.  

ACCORDING TO THAT NEWS, players were joking even after they lost.  That happened to the basketball team awhile back too.  They do not have enough passion to try to win.  That would be bad in my eyes.

Of course, it could be just that the coach is making those up.

myversa

People always can get emotional after their win but you can always see how they would react when they lost.  Did Canadian laugh after their loss?  We do not have to believe the media but you can always watch the recorded video and see if Chinese team members did still chat happily when they were losing.

Let's say it's not Chinese team but another country team, and they did still chat happily, Peter, are you still going to defend them?

I made this point, not because they are Chinese team or their coach is Canadian.  Just simply an Olympics national team do not treat the game seriously.

Maybe after the loss, those team members got a lecture from the coach or other people and changed their attitude and thus they won the medals.  No one really knows.  Maybe someone will post a video after the Olympics are gone, and we will know the truth.

Just wondering, if the team is not Chinese team, would you still defend it like you do now?

myversa

Just wondering, if the team is not Chinese, would you bash them again and again for no reason like this? There are always bashers like you who are itching to bash the Chinese whenever possible.
If th ...
peter236 發表於 2010-2-28 16:16

I did not bash.  I only tell in a sportsman's point of view.  When I discuss NBA with my friends, I do not care they have Chinese on their team or not, we discuss how they played not their race.  This is honest truth.  I started to watch NBA in 1990 when there is no any Chinese playing or any of them have been to China.  Do not assume I bash Chinese.  

The only thing about Chinese is that if this is not news about Chinese teams, I would not post here since this is a Chinese forum.  I would still discuss with my friends that the team did not have any passion no matter what team it is.

Now you tell me, if this is not a Chinese team, would you analyze differently?

myversa

They win maybe because that news really has some impact on the team so they learned their mistake, which was very good thing.  Learn from mistake.  THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DO WRONG AND TRY TO OVERCOME IT.  They do not think they are all super-Chinese and they did not make any mistake.  For this I praised them.  

However when that news came out, they did not win yet so you cannot assume they can win then.

myversa

I did not mean Chinese has no passion.  I meant that the player in the Chinese team in that articles has no passion.  Did you see how USA became so upset after they lost the hockey game?  They treated it seriously.  According to your logic, USA hockey teams should not be too uptight after losing the game right?  They should do what the Chinese team were doing, chatting happily on the bench?

I do not know the coach of that team so I had no comments about that coach.  Maybe the coach made up the whole article but that was not my concern.  I only discuss this article on sportsmanship.

Nevertheless, you still have not answer my question, if this is not a Chinese team but a Canadian team, I would still post because it's Canadian team but would you still try so hard to convince people otherwise?