rockypath

I'm extremely interested to see what our dear Peter and Rockypath have to say about the outdated 戶藉 system.

Lik 發表於 2010-4-14 13:33

Thank you for being extremely interested in what I would have to say.

What do I have to say? It will depend on what your argument is. The outdated 戶藉 system is a fact and existing social issue. You can state your points, take your stand and make your argument. I will be happy to play devil advocate.

We can lay all the points and facts on the table and let LYKs to make their own judgment.  

P.S. – friendly reminder – do more research before stating your points and arguments, don’t let your biases blind you.

rockypath

What's the point of laying out an argument with you though? From your remarks above, it is obvious  ...
Lik 發表於 2010-4-14 15:25

The outdated 戶藉 system is a fact and social issue. And you should provide me a base to comment on if you are interested in what I would have to say.

I would expect you understand the difference of existing facts and POV on an existing fact. Don’t tell me you do not understand I ask for your argument is asking for your POV but not to argue with you.  LOL…..

simaibb at least stated his POV - 我諗中國要壯大，真係要改善民生先，但係要改善民生我諗靠宜家個政府真係唔意。真係希望共產黨快d收皮。。。

Got it?

rockypath

They've done their part and contributed their youth and their lives to their country's economic growth, and yet they continue to be treated as second class citizens in their own country by the government....
Lik 發表於 2010-4-14 17:00

Lik,

You have a good heart but you didn’t want to spend time to do some research on the topics that you are interested in. Making 膚淺comments like this just weaken your points and shows that you might lack of the ability to look at issues with balanced view and make objective judgments.

Maybe you should ask this question first – “why is the 戶籍 system outdated and ineffective NOW and had the戶籍 system been useful before?”.

I would suggest you to lookup some information on this question and you should have a better understanding on this issue.

rockypath

Better than China for sure, at least for another 20 years.that's why I stay in Canada
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-4-17 11:24

I am a Chinese Canadian and proud of my Chinese root. That makes a difference between me and you.

We should certainly raise our voices and criticise the Chinese government but with the heart of helping it to improve its governing of the country and the progress of building democracy for the 福祉 of mainland Chinese.

Did you ever consider the 後果 if the CCP is overthrown when you are bashing the CCP and 煽動群眾情緒? What is the alternative if CCP is overthrown and what kind of situation will it be in China?

Please have a sincere heart to people who are not as “lucky” as you are.

rockypath

如果老共係唔得民心，咁佢俾人推返又有咩咁出奇呢？就正如國民黨當年貪婪腐敗，所以咪倒台敗走台灣囉？

你上面所講嘅呢句說，就正如 60幾年前啲支持國民黨嘅人會所講嘅一樣。所唔同嘅係，你將 CCP 換咗落 KMT 果度。
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Lik 發表於 2010-4-17 18:45

To test whether you know what you are talking about, could you do a comparison and show us what the result is?

Could you compare the economy, living standard, political and international influence of China at 50, 30, 10 years ago and now?

Which country is perfect and which party has no problem? Whether we should continue to allow a particular party in power is to see whether it is providing a better life to its people and leading the country prosper and grow stronger.

個人意識形態 is your own choice, but it does not mean it is good for mainland Chinese and China as a country.

rockypath

I love Canada because I can criticize the government everyday
and still getting pay by them.
What wo ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-4-17 23:00

I love China regardless which party is in power, rich or poor, strong or weak.

rockypath

結構性問題 例如 貪贓枉法 貧窮 文盲 權力派系鬥爭
妄顧人權 以權謀私 種種
今天 相比以前 有過之而無 ...
sheep 發表於 2010-4-17 20:30

Even though I 不屑 respond to you, I will respond to you anyways since 難得你講句人話.  

Could you answer this question – in your opinion, which factor is a more critical and decisive reason for 台灣民進黨 to lose its governing power?

1)        經濟無能
2)        貪贓枉法

rockypath

The corruption of Ah Bien's family is so bizarre,
he did not steal as much as some Red Capitalist,
b ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-4-18 05:19

Just answer my question straight - which factor is more decisive for 民進黨 to lose its governing power?

1)        經濟無能
2)        貪贓枉法

rockypath

回復  rockypath

Why you're still wasting time in poor canada then?
you should be building the great NorthWest and
Qing hai and be a true poletariat MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-4-18 07:11

Do you understand what respecting and being proud of your own root mean?

Loving China is not equal to loving any particular political party. However, I won’t be blinded by personal biases because of a particular political party which I do not support is in power.

My family, relatives and family friends donate money to build school and do voluntary works in China every year to do our small part to help the people who are not as “lucky” as you are. What have you done for the Chinese people?

So anyone who does not agree with your personal view should go back to China?

rockypath

Anyone who blindly worship red china should go back and
be constructive, not just talking cheap h ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-4-18 09:17

It is good that you actually did do something to help the people who are not as "lucky" as we are, and I respect you for that.

Why do you think I am a someone who blindly worship red China (I believe you mean red CCP)? Could you give examples to support your claim?