rockypath

LOL~

What makes you think she doesn't know anything about politics? <Starting Rockypath mode> Where is your evidence of that? I challenge you to prove your claim! <Rockypath mode off> ...
Lik 發表於 2010-5-22 22:13

Lik, sorry to embarrass you so many times, but it was you who actually embarrassed yourself.

Did you realize you are becoming more and more like a promoter of 陳水扁的民進黨式街頭和爛仔政治文化?

I also say the teacher is stupid. Instead of setting an example to her students and tell them what is 理性地和政府對話，瞭解政府政改方案，對方案進行理性討論和提出市民的意見, the teach set a bad example to impose her personal political views to her students.

If I have a child, I definitely oppose his teachers to have any opportunity to impose the influence of their political views on my child. NO WAY, I will complain to the principal right away if I know that.

rockypath

爾等擁共份子，不顧民生， 民憤，
甘願為虎作倀
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 11:00

I don't think the 2.4 million Hong Kong people who did not vote are all 擁共份子，不顧民生， 民憤，甘願為虎作倀

Why don't you learn how to 理性分析結果和反省失敗原因. Don't be influenced by the 陳水扁的民進黨式的政治文化 which Lik promotes.

rockypath

Yet SAR already claims those 2.4 million people are "on SAR side". ...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-5-23 11:33

Well, 公社兩黨 also claimed people who voted are on their side.

I don't think you and I would appriciate this kind of political game.

rockypath

I do not find any flaw in Miss Ng's questions,
she speaks for the majority of HK people,
kudo to Mis ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 11:47

My focus is not whether there is any flaw in Miss Ng’s questions especially when you are supporting her political view.

If there was another teacher stood up and expressed a different political view which opposes Miss Ng’s, will you still support that person doing that at that moment?

I don’t agree 當時的場合 is an appropriate opportunity for the teachers to express their own political views. That is why I don’t agree with Miss Ng’s action but not necessary her political view.

rockypath

Tong did not have the mandate from HK people in the first place,
he is merely a dog for CCP.
Miss Ng ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 12:07

I would suggest you to learn how to listen to and understand what other people said before expressing yourself.

Haven’t I made myself clear? I did not oppose or question what Miss Ng said. What I opposed is her action at a wrong venue at a wrong time.

Maybe you don’t mind the teachers can impose their political views on your child. I definitely oppose that because I won’t impose my political view on my child either.

rockypath

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Students  are not stupid, I don't think you were easily influenced and manipulated  by your teacher. I would not, in fact, I used to challenge my teachers a lots...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 12:24

I believe you just refuse to read what other people said.

Ok, let’s try again. If there was a Miss Chan instead of Miss Ng stood up to express 對變相公投的不滿並要求政府修訂法規禁止類似議員隨意辭職推行變相公投這種事情再次發生. Will you still support Miss Chan’s action and applause her for her brave?

Why don’t I want my children to be influenced by their teachers’ own political views is not because they are stupid or not. It is because they are still young and might still lack the knowledge, experience and analytical skills required to form their own opinions especially on political topics.

I still remember I listened to my teachers more than I listened to my parents and other people when I was in elementary school. Therefore, I won’t under estimate the power of influence the teachers can have on my children.

rockypath

you assume all the teachers are young?  they all retired at age 30/40? you just make all the assumption. ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-23 16:03

You misunderstood what I said. I said my children are young and they might lack the knowledge, experience and analytical skills to form their own opinions especially on political topics. Therefore, I don't want my children to be influenced by their teachers’ own political views.

Do you agree with what I said after I clarify what I meant?

Regarding the education of citizen’s responsibility to vote, I agree with you that schools should educate students about their duties as a citizen. However, we all know this election is a 變相公投 and it is not a regular election constituted by the law of Hong Kong. It is an election forced by a political alliance to express their own political opinions. The voting had been designated as an action to support or oppose their action.

Whether you as a citizen decide to support their actions or not, it is your own choice. But don’t force your opinion to other people under the name of 公民義務和責任.

rockypath

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It is because they are still young and might still lack the knowledge, experience a ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 16:08

Now I clarify -- "they" represent children not the teachers.

So, do you agree with me now?

By the way, you have yet told us whether you would support the action of Miss Chan.

rockypath

回復  rockypath

When did Miss Ng "Force her opinion to other people"
she just asked Mr. Tong a sim ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 16:34

Before you talk about anything else, just answer my question - "Do you support the action of Miss Chan?"

If you do not support the action of Miss Chan, how would you have the ground to support Miss Ng?

rockypath

ok, i understood what you mean, but don't agree to it.  the students are allow to vote when they tur ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-23 17:15

First, teaching the political knowledge is different from influencing the students with personal political view. It is important to teach students a full spectrum of knowledge and give them the skills how to analyze an issue and examine different opinions but not just accept the opinions that imposed by their teachers.

Second, do you know this 變相公投 has no opposition? Could you tell me how would I be able to say “NO” to against變相公投行動 other than not vote since any vote (include blank votes and votes to another person who does not be long to 公民兩黨) will be counted as supports to their action.

I will be waiting for your answer to tell me what I can do if I want to say no to this 變相公投行動 other than not voting.