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Layton and the NDP's Surge

With the federal election only a few days away, all signs are pointing to yet another minority Conservative government, with Jack Layton and the NDP as the official opposition party. Obviously, Ignatieff is the biggest loser here, and I would personally expect nothing less than an immediate resignation as the Liberal leader after the election is done.

I am not really surprised by Ignatieff's demise, but what really surprises me though is Layton and the NDP's surge in the polls. Are people really supportive of him and the NDP, as polls suggest that Canadians think Layton would make for the best PM? Or are they simply fed up with the Liberals, but can't find themselves voting for the Conservatives? (This is also supported by the huge drop in support for the Liberals over the past few weeks.)

Personally, the way I see this is -- if Layton and the NDP were to ever become Canada's next PM (probably won't happen in this election, but it might in the next), The NDP philosophies would mean that they'd be spending money everywhere, and I am not convinced that the economy and businesses could stay strong under an NDP leadership. Canada would be very dai wok as the economy would tank and our national debt mounts. But at this point, an NDP PM in the next election is no longer a pipe dream.

What do you guys think? (I'd even be interested to hear what our 3 musketeers have to say on this matter, although I already have a good idea of what Peter boy would probably say. )

-Lik

本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-4-29 12:18 編輯

The country is basically a one party rule now. The Liberal is falling out of favor more quickly now than expected by most. But do Canadians really want the NDP to be in power? NDP is just not practical for the country, as the nation is already in big debt.

The Conservatives, even though they are autocratic and secretive, is probably the only party that can form a majority in the near term. This maybe a good thing for the country, since there will be less bickering in the parliament.

hahaha, Harper is forced to stay and can't attend his masters wedding.

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what I think is.  
1) I won't vote for a party just because the party want to be majority.
2) Sometimes, it is good to have left Wing rules the country for a while.  To balance out the society.   If the government is favor towards business for a long time, of course, the labour force will be scarified.  Then it is better to have a social government comes in to swing it back.  so that rich won't get too rich, poor will get some help.    For example, look at HK.
so, in short term it may hurt, for long term it is good for the country
3) I rather to have minority government than majority for now.  We are in the peaceful time, there is not much difference having minority or majority.  And indeed, it is good to have minority so that the government will not be over power and being watched.   i.e. less corruption.  LOOK AT CHINA..   

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One party rule? Do you even have eyes? Poll numbers indicate that support for the 3 major parties are somewhere along:

35% for Conservatives
30% for NDP
21-ish% for Liberals

Real politicians in democratic societies are like hounds -- they have sharp noses that smell what the voters want. In democratic societies such as Canada, there are more than several built-in systems to keep everything in check and balance. Pseudo-one party rule (a la a majority government) will only occur if that is what Canadians want. And even then, voters have to power to overthrow the government should it step out of line.

而且,你估學大陸咁一言堂就即係好?事情要有討論先至陳述到利弊,唔係阿爺一句話點就點。

話你無質素就果然係無質素啦~成世人都俾我睇死~

-Lik

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到自由黨或新民主黨有機會做大多數政府時,
你估佢地會唔會自己放棄幾個MP位,
成立一個 '更好' '更平衡' 的小數政府.

這只是冇能力成為執政黨時的 '謊言' '廢話' !

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2011-4-29 13:18 編輯

Democracy does not solve corruption at all, examples: India, Greece and Philippines etc

Democracy does not solve lousy economy and big national debts, examples: Japan, UK, Canada, US, Greece, Portugal, Spain etc

For China, at this stage of their development, their current system is probably more suitable.

The Chinese need a period of stability, to quickly and efficiently develop their economy.
Examples: Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, and Singapore. All these places saw rapid rising living standards during periods with relatively little democracy.

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回復 3# rainbow-davie

你是打工還是做老闆?

我正在一生意, 比工會壓到冇錢廉, 打算close咗佢, 會有200人無咗份工, 咁對工人階級是好事嗎?

相反, 另一沒有工會的一間, 由於要在市場找好的員工, 薪金及福利都十分好, 由於沒有工會的無理支持, 員工更負責任, 工作效率更高, 生意亦更好.

聰明的virus是唔會殺死個host.

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Although I support voting, but certainly not with this frequency...

I won't "risk" to vote for a coalition government if we are having the minority parties with "this" quality.
"Veni, Vidi, Vici"
竹乃清,竹乃霸道

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Let's bring back the topic to Canada.

minority government = another vote 1 or 2 years from now.
It looks like it's going to be minority government this time anyways.
Harper didn't even have a chance to do work while as a minority government, I would suggest to give him majority government for a term to see any evil side of him first.   If he is bad, we can then vote him out.

minority government is not working for Canada, as we have seen from the recent history.
Layton keeps on promising give money out here and there, and people actually trust him, which I found it funny.   Where does he get the money from in a slow economy like now?  Increase tax now will only reduce revenue.  Borrow more money?
sunsiupak @ on.cc: Apple, 只要Show個Logo,屎都有人排隊買。

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聰明的virus是唔會殺死個host.
satil 發表於 2011-4-29 13:33

好一句「聰明的virus是唔會殺死個host」。

以前經濟起飛嘅美國,工會的確有對整個社會非常有貢獻同有意義。佢確保工人階級都可以得到合理嘅待遇,而唔係淨係俾資本家剝削。講真,其實今日嘅香港亦好需要有返啲有勢力嘅工會來幫打工仔爭取返啲權益。

但今日嘅美加社會,大嘅、太有勢力嘅工會的確係成日都貪得無厭同阻住個地球轉。最好嘅 example 就係美國汽車工業嘅 UAW。淨係識得吸血,最後咪搞到Big3差啲全部嵌包散?響加拿大,CUPE,Teamster呢兩家都係比較接近貪得無厭果一類。而 locally 來講,BCGEU 其實唔算太惡,而 BCTF 雖然賤(因為成日搵啲學生來做禍參),但其實都唔能夠怪佢地貪心,因為(省)政府其實真係 cut budget cut得好緊要,而教育真係一樣唔慳得嘅野來。

不過呢幾句其實全部 OT 晒。都係講返聯邦大選把啦~

-力

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