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Let’s assume God exists and He created us and the universe. He is a spiritual being and we are just human beings. Therefore, God is a much greater being than us. Then there will be a practical problem – communication with God. In order to communicate with God, He must talk to us in human language and in the terms that can make sense to human beings.

In my opinion, Hell and Heaven might not be exactly the same as described in the Bible if we just read text according to its face meaning. They are described as the way they are is to allow human to understand.

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原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-17 00:58 發表
honestly it's like a mental illness hospital, all the patients there can feel nothing else but only "happiness"?! (more like zombie) I just can't imagine how "happy" it would be....


"Mental illness hosptial" -- that is a funny term to describe heaven.

What the Bible tries to tell us is that human being in fact is a spiritual being. When we die, we leave the phisical body and we return to the spiritual form (please correct me if I am wrong). Therefore, we won't live in the same way as we live on earth. In  heaven, it will be a glorious and happy life since we will living with God. In hell, we will suffer and disconnect from God.

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原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-17 02:20 發表


Yes, let's say God and heaven and hell and the "spirit" are something abstract and in much higher level and kind of mysteries that we human being can't really understand. Therefore, isn't it more se ...


II don't have a good answer to your question. However, I can give you an example and it might help you and me to make some sense in situation like this.

I once watched a documentary and part of it is about Quantum Physic. It paints a picture that is totally beyond my comprehension and my daily life experience.  For example, it said that we can exist in more than one locations at the same time. HOW?! I don’t know.  My jaw dropped deeply when I watched it.

Something that is beyond our comprehension and which we do not encounter in our daily life does not means it does not exist or it is not true. I would doubt that I can understand Quantum Physic even if people try to explain it to me in plain language.

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原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-16 18:50 發表


that forbidden apple obviously is a genetic level drug that can change human's every little thing in genetic level. That is the only explanation why human off springs are full of problems ("bugs"). ...


Yes, I think you can look at it this way.

God already forbids them to take the apple and told them the result if they eat it – they will die. The examples below in a way can illustrate why we inherited the original sin.
1) When we copy a software containing bugs, the copy of course will contain bugs as well.
2) We migrate to a different country and live there till we die. Of course our off springs will be born, grow and die in that country (assuming they do not migrate to a different country again).

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原帖由 一代烈士 於 2009-1-17 13:50 發表
好多科學家有好多證明信教者多為低智者, 又一次顯現其準確性 ...


I don't know from where you get this information. What I know the truth is the quite opposite. Here is a short list of some respectful scientists (there are many others not on this list) http://140.114.58.65/bible/PDF%5 ... %AD%B8%E5%AE%B6.PDF

Of courses, there are other great scientists believing in other religions as well.

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原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-18 18:13 發表


some christian said that 進化論作者臨終時信了主
但跟本沒有那回事﹐至少不至於那些教徒那樣說的那樣肯定


You are right, it is not 100% confirmed. One of the possibilities is the wife of Charles Darwin (author of On the Origin of Species) wrote the letter to confessed for writing this book (again this is just a possibility that some people suspect and it is not confirmed either).  

However, Darwin is not the person to discovered “Evolution”. This theory had existed long before him.

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100% of Christians (including pastors and university professors) that I have talked to admitted that they do not understand what is written in the Bible 100% and there are many questions that they cannot answer. However, they still believe it faithfully because:

1)        They believe there is a creator and the Bible tells them God is the creator. (If we believe automobile is created by man, why can we not accept the universe was created by God?).
2)        Jesus is a historical person and his stories were recorded and can be verified.
3)        There are historical artefacts and records confirm what is written in the Bible.
4)        Many prophecies written in the Bible had happen and are going to happen confirm the power of the Bible.
5)        Their personal experiences have confirmed the love and power from God.
     a.        God gives them hope when they are in a darkness
     b.        God gives them strength when they fall
     c.        God gives them conform when they suffer
     d.        God gives them wisdom when they are in trouble
     e.        God gives them guidance when the are lost
     f.        God gives them humble when they succeed   
6)        Many questions had been answered after they accept God and believe in the Bible. The text begins to make sense after that (they explained it was because they began to humble themselves).

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