華女指遭天車警 上銬掃跌撞爆牙 加拿大, 主持人, 香港, 小姐, 男女

吳孟達

http://www.mingpaovan.com/htm/News/20091020/vaa1h.htm

【明報專訊】列治文一名華裔鋼琴女教師，上周六在加拿大線車站看見一名懷疑不能出示車票的少年，遭交通特警兩名男女警員圍著喝罵至驚哭，她一時好心上前欲給該少年一張車票，但遭警員掃跌在地當眾鎖在鐵欄約15分鐘，身體多處受傷兼盡受凌辱。她說﹕「我給車票是不對，但亦不應受到特警如此粗暴對待。」

該名聲稱身心皆受重創的愛心女教師陳小姐，由香港移民加國約6年，曾是香港的電台兒童節目主持人，昨日到中僑辦事處求助，獲得中僑協助，將會向運聯、交通特警(Transit Police)、警察投訴部門、國會議員、省議員等投訴，要求討回公道。

陳小姐昨日展示她身上多處傷勢，包括一隻門牙爆裂、嘴唇受傷、左手腕及手背瘀腫、胸口腫痛等，她形容當時被兩名警員掃跌壓著一刻，整個人好像「散哂」又四周無援，跟著又要鎖在月台的鐵欄示眾，被大批乘客「眼望望」，那種難受無法用字句形容。

她說，事發在上周6下午2時30分左右，當時她在加拿大線香港仔站(Aberdeen Canada Line Station)的月台，看見兩名男女警員圍著一名年約12歲的少年，大聲喝罵他，該少年顯得很驚慌及在哭泣，她聽到警員的語氣，好像是說該少年不能出示車票，由於她很疼愛小孩子，突然有衝動上前給他一張車票助他解圍。

被指襲警 鎖在欄杆「示眾」

陳小姐稱，當時女警一手接過她的車票，並指示車票上的說明，說她這做是犯法。她向該女警解釋，她只是愛小孩心切，並非想犯法，又說警員不應以這樣對惡劣態度對待小孩。

「當時女警問我是否挑戰她，又說我襲警，隨即拿出手銬，並掃跌我在地又大叫男警幫手。」陳小姐稱，她完全沒有對女警動手，卻被指襲警及鎖在欄杆，她當時哭了起來，在被鎖了約15分鐘後向警員說，如果她有身孕，後果會很嚴重，並向女警道歉，稱因文化不同而產生誤會，警員後來才解開她的手銬。

本報曾致電交通特警了解事件，但直至截稿仍未見回覆。

RayRay

This is what  I concerned: 遭交通特警兩名男女警員圍著喝罵至驚哭
The police should not 喝罵至驚哭 to a 12 years old kid... imagine he is your brother or sister or son....
吳孟達 發表於 2009-10-20 19:06

100 %  agree and children should be protected to certain extend.

yoursecret

When force is used on a person, some bruises and scrapes are unavoidable, unfortunately the broken tooth seems to indicate too much violence was involved. I wish Translink would release the video so we can see for ourselves.

BiscottiGelato

I do not say in this instant, the police is right or that lady is wrong.  I am not there to witness so I cannot judge.  People can only judge by the evidence so far.

My statement might not be appro ...
myversa 發表於 2009-10-22 12:00

I think the point of discussion is on whether the lady was abused by overuse of force, and whether the amount of force used is appropriate. There's no point dicussing whether Miss Chan violated the law as she admits herself that she was stupid in doing what she did.

As you said, the discussion and judgements are dependant on the 'evidence' so far, which really is just 口同nose拗.... other than the one 3rd party witness as mentioned in the other thread, this TW lady who sides Miss Chan's version of the story....

Regardless, the the outcome is gonna be either of the 3 i think:

1. the lady is lying and the video is released indicating so
2. the transit police is lying and the video is released indicating so
3. the transit police is lying and the video is never released

... May a transparent investigation be taken place, the right entities be held accountable, and our legal enforcement/judicial system be improved towards the right direction ...

myversa

By dragging in China into here, it shows your anti-China attitude.
Regardless of what the Chinese police will do, that does not mean we are doing the right thing here and the Canada line police just  ...
peter236 發表於 2009-10-22 12:19

I do not say in this instant, the police is right or that lady is wrong.  I am not there to witness so I cannot judge.  People can only judge by the evidence so far.

My statement might not be appropriate but I just state based on my observation from the news.  Judging from the situation described from the news, the lady seemed committing crimes by giving the kid tickets.

Personally I never encountered neither Canadian police or China police so I cannot tell you definitely which one is worse.

BiscottiGelato

By dragging in China into here, it shows your anti-China attitude.
Regardless of what the Chinese police will do, that does not mean we are doing the right thing here and the Canada line police just  ...
peter236 發表於 2009-10-22 11:19

Hmm.. i guess depends on who you are and which city... I've been through the SH airport. I got questioned a few times cuz I am a Chinese looking person holding a CAD passport. I understand why they'd be paranoid incase of stolen/fake passport, etc.  However throughout all the times I was stopped and asked to show documentations, can't say they are particularly nice (I can tell they weren't happy that I don't speak a drop of Mandarin with them and do English instead), but definately not rude.

SH law enforcement is probably held pretty tight, esp on incidents involving foreigners... Unlike here... Polish guy killed by our law enforcements? Sucks to be that Polish guy then...

BiscottiGelato

陳小姐稱，她最初移民溫哥華時，曾在溫哥華的天車站欲維護一名小孩時，亦曾遭當時沒有警槍的數名車站男警察粗暴對待，當時她沒有投訴。現又重蹈覆轍，她無法繼續容忍車站警察的粗暴態度，一定要投訴討回公道。

陳小 ...
PSP550 發表於 2009-10-21 17:25

One 3rd party witness... seem to side Miss Chan then...
Wording used (not sure if Ming Pao exagerated during paraphrasing) included 'repeat of the Dzekenski incident' and 'the female officer lost it (emotionally)'...
Another blow to confidence in the Canadian law enforcement...
Hopefully a full transparent investigation would be conducted on this, and appropriate people/person will be held accountable...

peter236

It is hard to tell who is wrong here since none of us is not at the scene of crime.  

If this happens in China, I think the so called "china police" would treat her even worse ba.
myversa 發表於 2009-10-22 11:30

By dragging in China into here, it shows your anti-China attitude.
Regardless of what the Chinese police will do, that does not mean we are doing the right thing here and the Canada line police just abused the human rights of the local people here.

myversa

It is hard to tell who is wrong here since none of us is not at the scene of crime.  

If this happens in China, I think the so called "china police" would treat her even worse ba.

news

該名聲稱願意向當局講出實況的女士昨晚接受電話訪問時說，事發時她在月台聽見有女警大聲罵陳小姐，當時她不知陳小姐犯了什麼法，
PSP550 發表於 2009-10-21 17:25

even the so called witness didn't know what was exchanged btwn her and the officer