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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-20 05:01 編輯

Highspeed railway near Beijing

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 00:58 編輯
I think it makes sense to invest in high speed rail as oppose to ariports and highways, more efficient, economical and good for the environment. This is one of the things Beijing done right and we sho ...
yoursecret 發表於 2009-9-20 17:11

They are building the largest highspeed railway system in the world. It is going to help them reduce the use of cars, unlike those gasoline wasting people in North America.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 01:54 編輯
唉,咩都要爭第一
但日日都仲係咁多窮人無書讀無飯食
嘉嘉 發表於 2009-9-22 01:26

The construction of the railway helps to solve exactly those problems. The building of the railway system creates a lot of jobs for the people. China has the largest population in the world, of course they need a large railway network to move 1.3 billion people around. The efficient railway network will reduce transportation bottlenecks and promote economic growth and so that all people will benefit.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 13:28 編輯

I don't think the highspeed railway system is a 面子工程, like the maglev. They studied the highspeed train systems in Japan and Europe. It is clear that highspeed trains promote economic growth and efficiency. When I took the maglev train in Shanghai, there were quite a lot of people. So the travellers were using it. The problem is the high cost of construction per km compared with conventional highspeed train which can already travel at 350km/h.

A side note is that even Japan is planning the Chuo Shinkansen (中央新幹線) maglev line which connects Tokyo, Nagoya, and Osaka. So is this Japanese maglev a 面子工程?
President Obama proposed a highpseed train linking the North Eastern corridor of the US and from Seattle to LA on the west coast. So some people actually see a need for highspeed trains in North America.

For those who have never visited China, you should go there with an open mind, rather than with a preconceived impression.
When I took the highspeed train from Shanghai south station, it was full of people. It felt like tens of thousands of people in the station around me. So the system is well-used. The government wants to solve the bottleneck problem that reduces the mobility of hundreds of millions of people.
While hundreds of millions of people will use trains, still hundreds of millions will drive their own cars as they become more prosperous. Chinese cities are crowded so that requires the construction more subways and inter-city highspeed railway. At the same time, China also has a vast landscape, unlike Japan, so some people will still drive their own cars. But it is still better to have highpseed railway to divert the people to railway rather than having a billion cars on the road.

A side note is that, while the Chinese government gives subsidy to car buyers during this economic crisis, they do have measures to encourage the production of more hybrid and electric cars.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-22 14:02 編輯
First of all, I think it is quite obvious that whoever wrote this last reply is not the same usual 50 cent Peter we're used to seeing. This writer behind the keyboard is far too civil and sophisticate ...
Lik 發表於 2009-9-22 13:47

hahaha, Lik, What are you thinking about? I don't need to call you a moron in every post. You are so funny, as a British secret agent.
Why do you embarrass yourself every time? Whenever I give you facts to prove you wrong, you just ignore them.

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Highspeed rail in Tianjing

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已經留意到好耐
係就話人moron,唔係就話人spy
一o的manner都無
好明顯佢一定係大陸失敗教育o既受害者啦, poor guy

所以都話,大陸有咁多錢整依樣整o個樣,都唔用o的錢o黎教育下o的人民,真係失禮街坊 ...
嘉嘉 發表於 2009-9-24 09:59

I guess you got it incorrectly. Does it mean anyone who disagree with you is from mainland China?

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Please re-read her post.  She did not agree nor disagree with you on any of your point.  She is just saying that it's impolite to call people "moron".  She only assumed you are from mainland China b ...
myversa 發表於 2009-9-24 12:40

That is why she is incorrect. She claimed that I am from mainland China based on a wrong assumption and a misinformed impression of China.
BTW, people like Lik or Moi are far from polite.

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面對住斯文人我會禮數周全,同啲蠻不講理嘅人我絕對唔介意扯到盡咁去串佢同打爛仔交。

-力
Lik 發表於 2009-9-24 13:29

hahaha, how come you make excuses to be rude? You yourself have no manners at all. Every time I rebuked your false claims with facts, you just ignored them. Again and again you got embarrassed.

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本帖最後由 peter236 於 2009-9-25 00:31 編輯
ignoring posts does not mean he/she does not have manners but calling people moron or other similar stuff is.  You are the one really twist the fact here.

For two people debating, of course they can  ...
myversa 發表於 2009-9-24 23:55

I didn't say he ignored the posts. I didn't say ignoring posts means not having manners. Why are you twisting what I said here?

When Lik makes his false claims, I then rebuked him with facts. Very often he just pretends he didn't see my points and then he would repeat his points again in the reply. That is his way of evasion.
Of course, Lik is rude too, as he admitted himself another post.

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