peter236

This is not racism at all. In North America, people have seen a large number of non-white people speaking good English. But in China, foreigners or foreign-looking people speaking good Chinese is regarded as something of a novelty.
Like the Canadian Mark Henry Rowswell, known as 大山, is very popular in China. He can speak good Mandarin. But tons of other people can speak good Mandarin. He is popular because he is a foreigner speaking good Mandarin.

peter236

This is not racism at all as most people in China do not have a lot of acquaintances who are Chinese but speak foreign languages, and also foreigners who speak Chinese. Over time, this mentality will change with more contacts with foreingers. It's not like they have millions of foreign-looking white or Hispanic people in China.

It is understandable because the western powers invaded and looted China and then the Japanese committed the Nanjing massacre, now they are rapidly improving their living standards. Foreigners not only mistreated the Chinese, but they killed millions of Chinese, during the Ching dynasty and the WWII.

peter236

I think the problem is with people always carry their past for generations and generations. Honestly, how many Chinese in our generation these days are very knowledgable about the history and war enou ...
zuesel 發表於 2009-9-30 11:45

wow, how arrogant you are? What makes you think that the Chinese are not improving their technology everyday? You talk like only westerners can improve technologies. The Chinese are improving their economy and living standards everyday. The Chinese are leading the world out of this economic crisis.

Please broaden your horizon and stop picking on the Chinese on a message board. If the Chinese starts dumping the $US, the whole US economy will crumble. Why don't you start contributing to the Chinese high-tech industries, rather than making useless miniature models at home? You are just a pathetic self-hating Chinese..

peter236

Peter, we do not hate Chinese and we are just stating the fact.

1.  Even if whole US economy crumbles, Chinese economy will soon fall too.  You have not learned world economy right?

2.  As a matter  ...
myversa 發表於 2009-10-1 08:32

This shows your racism against the Chinese again. Cheap labour is not the only advantage of investing in China. If foreigners want cheap labour, they can invest in Africa or India, which are even cheaper.

In fact, China's market is one of the world's largest that many international companies have to invest there in order to maintain growth. Companies like GM, Microsoft, Nokia etc invest in China because it is a big market with rising living standards. China provides a lot of well-educated talents which perform high-tech research for multi-national companies. China possess superior infrastructure that others developing countries like India cannot match.

Like you said, if whole US economy crumbles, Chinese economy will be affected. But still China is the lender of money to the US. This shows the importance of the Chinese economy to the world as countries like US/Japan are not growing at all.

peter236

23# peter236

China improving its technology everyday but so as everyone.  It is always a relative game.  Look at what China showed in their military yesterday.  Anything outstanding that China shou ...
B2L2 發表於 2009-10-1 12:45

Maybe you are right, the Chinese are racists, and you are a good example. There are a few self-hating LYKs who are racist against the Chinese.

The Chinese are proud of themselves because of the progress that they have made. They have come a long way, and of course, still have a long way to go.

But you should not look down on the Chinese just because "they are not as good as the western countries". But most other countries are not as good as the western countries yet anyway. No other race in the world would look down on their own kind just because "they are not as good as the western countries".  Most other races are proud of their own kind no matter how poor or backward they are. Look at the Indians, Africans, Mexicans etc, they are still proud of their own country and culture, even though they maybe poor or "not as good as the western countries yet"

People like you should give the Chinese encouragements rather than making all these unconstructive comments.

peter236

haha I do not hold any racism against China.  I only speak of the fact.  The only people who cannot improve themselves are whom did not see their own mistakes.  I do not really like you insist that  ...
myversa 發表於 2009-10-3 00:04

You moron, I didn't say China is all good. No country in the world is all good, but the Chinese have made big improvements, they still have a lot of work to do, just like India and many other countries.

peter236

haha I do not hold any racism against China.  I only speak of the fact.  The only people who cannot improve themselves are whom did not see their own mistakes.  I do not really like you insist that  ...
myversa 發表於 2009-10-3 00:04

You lost the argument, again you tried to divert attention. I didn't say China is all good. Why are you making things up? No country in the world is all good, but the Chinese have made big improvements, they still have a lot of work to do, just like India and many other countries.

You are wrong, it is the Indians who are famous for having a rapidly growing population. the Indians, vietnamese and africans have even lower wages. But foreigners select to invest in China, because china has very good infrastructure, large market, and a large number of well-educated research talents. This is why China is the leader among other developing countries like India, Brazil, Russia etc. China has provided the stabilizing force in this economic crisis, when most western counties are going bankrupt.

China has a very pragmatic plan of developing their economy step by step. It is going to take many decades to develop the whole country. But China has already pulled more people out of poverty, in a shorter period of time than any other other country in history. It is the Indians who cannot see their own mistakes, as they bragged about how they can compare with China, when in fact the Indians are way behind. Most Indians do not even have reliable water supply and electricity.

Taiwan, on the other hand, is only famous for chen shui bian, who is corrupted, like most other Taiwan politicians and businesses. He even wants to sue the US government, for not saving him. No wonder Taiwan's economy has been stalling for years.

peter236

As we take a look at other cultures around the world, the people in general are proud of their culture and native country, whether their country is rich or poor, and in good times and bad times. Those people who are proud of their culture and native country only when their country is "as good as the west" are just opportunists. So it kind of odd to see some people here who think like that.

Look, most countries are not "as good as western countries". Does that mean most people have to be ashamed of their culture?
As in the case of China, it is making rapid improvements. No one is saying all is good or that there are no problems. The Chinese government itself has acknowledged there are still many problems that need to be addressed. For those LYKs who think I am not aware of these problems in China, I have to say that is just a baseless claim. I just pointed out that these problems are not unique to China at all. But some prejudiced people just like to pick on the Chinese as if only has these issues.

peter236

but why would you want others to think like you anyway

why? you should ask people like Lik, why he always want to win an argument? Anyone who participates in a discussion always thinks he/she is right. But you should be more reasonable here. You make your points because you think you are right. You talk like I am forcing you to believe in something. No, I just present some arguments. You can agree or disagree.