peter236

me too

我無中國國藉，又點會係中國人？
我只會認係華人

嘉嘉 發表於 2013-2-15 00:25

Have you formally inform the Hong Kong government that you are giving up HK citizenship? All Hong Kong citizens are technically regarded as Chinese nationals worldwide.

peter236

回復  reyes


好似話呢個係60年代既事, 個時大陸同美國唔妥架嘛~
jiujiujiu 發表於 2013-2-13 22:27

Most of the countries in the world recognize the People's Republic of China as the legitimate government of China, including Taiwan province.
A small number of countries recognize the Republic Of China as the government of China, including the mainland.

peter236

回復  大C姐


首先, 我有英國passport 所以我係英國人, 我亦有加拿大passport, 所以, 我亦都係加拿大人,  ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2013-2-16 15:47

Have you formally informed the Hong Kong government that you are giving up HK citizenship? If you were born in Hong Kong, then you are eligible for a HK Identity Card. Any passport is only a travel document.
The Hong Kong government is not going to automatically cancel your HK citizenship and HK ID card, even if you have acquired a foreign citizenship. You have to formally tell them you are giving up HK citizenship, otherwise you are still technically a Hong Kong citizen, and therefore a Chinese national.

However, the term "Chinese" is only a nationality concept. There are many ethnic groups within China. Most of us here belong to the Han ethnicity. I guess most westerners and even some Hong Kongers, are not even aware that we belong to the ethnic Han group, regardless of our nationality.

Two years ago, when the HK government distributed $6000 to all HK citizens, there were a large number of local Hong Kongers who went back just to get the $6000. It looks like many people here are still keeping their HK Identity Cards and therefore technically still Chinese nationals.

peter236

回復  peter236


我連低能身分證都無, 你覺得我會唔會特登去拿個6000蚊吖~

仲有, 就算拿住香港身分證,  ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2013-2-16 21:30

It does not matter if you currently possess the Hong Kong Identity Card, whether the old one or the new smart card. As long as your birth certificate says you are born in Hong Kong, then you are HK citizen. If you have not formally relinquish the HK citizenship, then you are still technically a Hong Kong citizen, and therefore a Chinese national.

Only Hk citizens are eligible for the permanent 香港身份證 with 三粒星. China has sovereignty over Hong Kong. So if you are born in HK and has not formally given up your Hk citizenship, then you still possess Hk citizenship, and therefore technically you are still a Chinese national.

So the test is simple, were you born in Hk and have you formally tell HK government you are giving up?

回鄉證 or 回鄉卡 are just travel documents within China. A passport is for travelling to other countries.

peter236

This is ONLY true if one is in China and it is purely PRC Government's view.   This means nothing  ...
blue20ae 發表於 2013-2-16 22:00

For those Hong Kong-born Hong Kongers who hate China/Hong Kong and no longer want to be Chinese nationals, they should formally give up by informing the Hong Kong government.

peter236

回復  rockypath

所以我咪一早話自己係華人囉.....
我確實唔係中國大陸公民吖嘛~
連咁簡單既concept D人 ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2013-2-17 14:00

Have you formally informed the Hong Kong government that you are giving up HK citizenship? If you were born in Hong Kong, then you are eligible for a HK Identity Card.
The Hong Kong government does not automatically cancel your HK citizenship and HK ID card, even if you have acquired a foreign citizenship. You have to formally tell them you are relinquishing the HK citizenship, otherwise you are still technically a Hong Kong citizen, and therefore a Chinese national.

If you dislike China/Hong Kong and those places are causing you discomfort, then you should cut all ties by formally informing the Hong Kong government.

peter236

你說的是在１９１２年之前哪有“中國”。

我想指出的是“中國”一詞在歷史上一早就已經使用而且逐漸發展 ...
rockypath 發表於 2013-2-17 22:26

Most Hong Kongers just keep their HK Identity Card just in case the HK government gives $6000 again. This tells you how practical Hk people are, LOL.

peter236

回復  peter236

唔該做下功課先啦~ 乜你唔係好鐘意quote 人D野袈咩~ 香港居留權無得放棄架~ 權利係無得放 ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2013-2-18 17:28

Have you formally informed the Hong Kong government that you are giving up HK
Hong Kong permanent Identity Card? If you were born in Hong Kong, then you are eligible for a HK permanent Identity Card. Any passport is only a travel document.
You permanent right of abode in Hong Kong is equivalent to being a Chinese national.

The Hong Kong government is not going to automatically cancel your permanent right of abode in HK, even if you have acquired a foreign citizenship. You have to formally tell them you are giving up, otherwise you are still technically a Chinese national.

http://www.hkclic.org/tc/topics/ ... ationality/q5.shtml

中國國籍可否喪失或被放棄？

5. 中國國籍可否喪失或被放棄？

根據《中華人民共和國國籍法》第9條，凡已移居外國並獲得外國公民身分的中國公民，即喪失中國國籍，並且不再可以將本身的中國國籍傳給子女。國籍法第10條亦列明，中國籍人士可申請放棄本身的中國國籍。

至於香港的中國公民，根據全國人民代表大會常務委員會（人大常委）的「解釋」，情況卻有所不同。上述人士即使已獲得外國國籍，除非他們已根據第5項解釋向香港特區政府入境事務處申請獲承認為外國公民，否則他們仍會被視為中國公民。有關申請詳情，請參閱入境事務處的網站。

http://www.gov.hk/tc/residents/immigration/chinese/law.htm

全國人民代表大會常務委員會關於《中華人民共和國國籍法》在香港特別行政區實施的幾個問題的解釋

五. 香港特別行政區的中國公民的國籍發生變更，可憑有效證件向香港特別行政區受理國籍申請的機關申報。