peter236

你地個個都痴撚線，
毛爺爺一早堅決要沖繩加尖閣諸島回歸日本，

MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-9-20 22:26

That was not true at all.

peter236

MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-9-21 00:10

It was Chiang Kai Shek, not Mao Tse Tung.

peter236

你發雞盲呀？？
1953年人民日報呀蔣介石你個頭!
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2012-9-21 00:47

What you posted was irrelevant. In 1953, it was the Chiang Kai Shek's ROC that was representing China, not the PRC.

peter236

回復  MoiRhapsody

我有理由想信, 皮蛋係全心全意相信佢讀嗰個老共篡改過的歷史版本.

不過奇怪, 老共唔係1949年10月1日建國? 人民日報唔係老共嚴格控制?

扭曲嚟拗, 扮專家, 吓吓話你唔啱, 話你錯, 就見得多, "1953年人民日報蔣介石" 又真係過份地創新

唔通皮蛋有獨家內幕??
satil 發表於 2012-9-21 07:40

You should learn more about history instead of denying historical facts. The PRC normalized diplomatic relationships with the US in 1972 after Nixon visited mainland China. China and Japan also normalized diplomatic relationships in 1972.

So what if Mao Tse Tung established the PRC in 1949? Before 1972, it was Chiang Kai Shek's ROC that represented China.
Whatever Mao Tse Tung might have said about Diaoyu islands before 1972 was not relevant at all.

I said this before, but you pretended not to see it, which is funny.

peter236

回復  peter236


退守台灣
鞏固台灣基地
1949年1月10日，蔣中正派其子蔣經國前往上海會見中央銀行總裁俞 ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2012-9-22 10:19

Why did you keep on posting irrelevant stuff?!!
Before 1972 it was Chiang Kai Shek's ROC that represented China. After 1972 it was the PRC that represented China. The PRC normalized diplomatic relationships with the US in 1972 after Richard Nixon visited mainland China. China and Japan also normalized diplomatic relationships in 1972. The whole world knows about this. Which part you don't understand?

Chiang Kai Shek went to Taiwan, but so what? Until 1972, countries like the US and Japan, continued to recognize the ROC government in Taiwan, as the government of the whole of China, including mainland China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peo ... 0%93Japan_relations

In December 1971, the Chinese and Japanese trade liaison offices began to discuss the possibility of restoring diplomatic trade relations, and in July 1972, Kakuei Tanaka succeeded Eisaku Satō as a new Japanese Prime Minister. Tanaka assumed a normalization of the Sino-Japanese relations. Furthermore, the 1972 Nixon visit to China encouraged the normalization process. His visit to Beijing culminated in the signing a joint statement on September 29, 1972. It established diplomatic relations between Japan and the PRC.

peter236

阿生, 唔該... 咪玩啦...

D鬼佬同日本仔當年鬼識得分大陸同台灣係2個國家呀! 就算到E家都係2個國家啦!  ...
jiujiujiu 發表於 2012-9-22 13:09

wahahaha, let me ask you this question.
When did mainland China government of the PRC normalize diplomatic relations with Japan? Don't tell me they didn't know the difference between the PRC and the ROC.

Chiang Kai Shek went to Taiwan, but so what? Until 1972, countries like the US and Japan, continued to recognize Chiang Kai Shek ROC government's in Taiwan, as the government of the whole of China, including mainland China.

The fact was that in 1972, the US and Japan switched from recognizing the ROC to recognizing the PRC, as the government for the whole of China, including Taiwan and various islands. The Japanese knew clearly the difference between the PRC and the ROC. Mainland China PRC and ROC in Taiwan were not recognized as 2 separate countries. US/Japan recognized only one or the other.

Before 1972 it was Chiang Kai Shek's ROC that represented China. After 1972 it was Mao Tse Tung's PRC that represented China. The PRC normalized diplomatic relationships with the US in 1972 after Richard Nixon visited mainland China. China and Japan also normalized diplomatic relationships in 1972. The whole world knew about this.

Back to Moi's point about Mao Tse Tung. Whatever Mao Tse Tung said in 1959 about Diaoyu island was irrelevant, as the PRC had not established diplomatic relations with Japan yet at that time. It was Chiang Kai Shek's ROC that was representing the whole of China before 1972.

You should read wikipedia again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peo ... 0%93Japan_relations

In December 1971, the Chinese and Japanese trade liaison offices began to discuss the possibility of restoring diplomatic trade relations, and in July 1972, Kakuei Tanaka succeeded Eisaku Satō as a new Japanese Prime Minister. Tanaka assumed a normalization of the Sino-Japanese relations. Furthermore, the 1972 Nixon visit to China encouraged the normalization process. His visit to Beijing culminated in the signing a joint statement on September 29, 1972. It established diplomatic relations between Japan and the PRC. In a point of Chinese view, an impressive compromise was attained. The Japanese agreed to most of the PRC’s demands, including the political status of Taiwan.

The joint communiqué says:[5]

        The Government of Japan recognizes that Government of the People's Republic of China as the sole legal Government of China.

        The Government of the People's Republic of China reiterates that Taiwan is an inalienable part of the territory of the People's Republic of China. The Government of Japan fully understands and respects this stand of the Government of the People's Republic of China, and it firmly maintains its stand under Article 8 of the Postsdam Proclamation.

        The Government of Japan and the Government of People's Republic of China have decided to establish diplomatic relations as from September 29, 1972.

peter236

你咁長篇大論, 都係想帶離重中心

請清楚解釋, 共產黨1953年在自己的大陸範圍內, 在自己完全控制的人民日報 ...
satil 發表於 2012-9-22 19:51

Please read wikipedia again for more information on Potsdam declaration and Cairo declaration.

peter236

請清楚解釋, 共產黨1953年在自己的大陸範圍內, 在自己完全控制的人民日報, 發表教導性文章, 教國民流球群島 ...
satil 發表於 2012-9-22 20:13

The most important documents are the Potsdam declaration and the Cairo declaration which the various countries signed after the WWII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Declaration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration

Whatever Mao Tse Tung said before 1972 about Diaoyu islands was irrelevant and not representative of China's view since China and Japan had not normalized relations yet.

peter236

唔o岩channel就係唔o岩channel~ ...
嘉嘉 發表於 2012-9-23 00:25

嘉嘉, you asked about local protests against Japan in Vancouver. I posted that earlier in this thread, just hope you saw it.

peter236

美國佬只是在日本插旗而已...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2012-9-23 07:58

The US is only using Japan as a military base against North Korea. The fact is that Japan is the only country that was bombed with atomic bombs because of their war crimes committed. But they still could not learn from history.