tofu

"""Why don’t I want my children to be influenced by their teachers’ own political views is not because they are stupid or not.  It is because they are still young and might still lack the knowledge, experience and analytical skills required to form their own opinions especially on political topics."""

you assume all the teachers are young?  they all retired at age 30/40? you just make all the assumption.

""" I don’t agree 當時的場合 is an appropriate opportunity for the teachers to express their own political views. """

i don't think you really understand the issue.  the teacher teaches her students in the class, citizen is responsible to vote for his/her government.  but the governor told people not to vote this time, so it is a bad example.  you may think this election is stupid and just waste money, but it is still a legit election.  it is nothing to deal with her political view, you come out to vote does not necessary mean you are supporting one party, you are just fulfill your responsibility of a citizen.  so she hoped mr. tong can explain why he didn't fulfill his responsibility.

tofu

ok, i understood what you mean, but don't agree to it.  the students are allow to vote when they turn 18 and they are in high school already, which is between 12-18 years old.  it is important for them to learn what is political?  knowledge, experience and analytical skills are things that need to build up.  a good teacher will not influence his students by his own point of view, he will just open the path for his students to think and find the answer by themselves.  if your child really influenced by the teacher, it means you are not a good parent.  education is not only at school.  if you have an opposite idea of your child's teacher, you child should do more research find out which side does he buy.    if your child knows nothing about political, they will just being use as a tool.

this is not a regular election, but it is a legit election.  if you don't like this election, vote for an opposite party or make an invalid vote.  inorder to let them know this is a bad idea.  come back to the real world, "變相" happen all the times.  
hst is a 變相 increased tax rate, we don't tell everyone not to pay it or collect it.  we go though legal process to stop it.  

"""Whether you as a citizen decide to support their actions or not, it is your own choice. """
but the governor told the public that all the dept heads are not going to vote is more than a personal choice already.  it will also give pressure to all government's employee, not to vote.

tofu

唔係人人都好似你地咁幸福, 可以話走就走架.
如果有能力既話, 6.4 之後我都想離開香港, 因為當年真係好怕 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-5-23 21:29

i remember you said you were in primary school  and knew nothing about 6/4 at the time of 6/4.  but now you said you were scared of 共產黨 and want to leave hk.  
if you really want to leave hk, you should not in hk now.

tofu

回復 49# rockypath

not sure where did you get the info about any vote is counting as support their action.
but here is the info. from 黃毓民
他解釋說，他所推動的「五區總辭」，即在香港的五大區（香港、九龍東、九龍西、新界東及新界西），每區有一位泛民立法會議員辭職，出現五個空缺席位，然後會進行補選。在補選時，由泛民設定一個議題，即是否要實行二零一二雙普選，當選民投票予泛民參選者，便是支持二零一二年雙普選。也就是說，對二零一二年是否雙普選作變相公投。當五區泛民議員再次當選，即代表二零一二雙普選具有相當的民意基礎。這對特區政府和中央政府會造成極大的壓力，並在國際間引起廣泛的關注。

according to the above paragraph, if you want to show you are not supporting them, you should vote for the opposition, like 白姐姐

tofu

回復 96# mcjohnjohn

6.4果陣, 小弟已經小六
is 小六 still primary school?

tofu

回復 95# rockypath

i did read lik and your posts, that is why i googled the background of 五區總辭.  and this is what i find from mr. wong speech.  still not able to find any doc. to support your definition of 五區總辭(any vote is count on their side).  

but just common sense, if none of them can get back the seat, no matter how many people are going to vote, they are the losers la.

tofu

no matter what, we got some good results.  at least 中央 open the doors for further discussion ar.

民主黨正副主席何俊仁、劉慧卿及議員張文光昨早與代表中央政府的中聯辦副主任李剛，舉行了長達兩小時多的「破冰會面」，商談香港政制發展。會後，民主黨透露向中央提出了5點要求，何俊仁明言，若中央不就政府的2012政改方案「加碼」，即原有及5個新增區議會議席由民選區議員提名，交全港沒有功能組別投票權的選民選出，該黨會投票否決政改方案。據悉，這個加碼要求已超越普選定義爭議，成為民主黨與中央商談的最關鍵議題。

plus, 五區公投運動前，特首曾蔭權公然向北京屈服，違反傳統不投票，令市民對他的怨氣與不滿再度爆發。香港大學最新調查顯示，曾蔭權的民望全線下降，反對他出任特首的受訪者比率首次突破 50%水平，創他出任特首以來新高。有立法會議員認為特首整體民望下挫，顯示政府不論政制還是民生施政上，均未有回應市民訴求，令社會深層次矛盾和怨氣不斷惡化。