Ovaltine

I agree with peter this time, subway is an important infrastructure to lower the ecological footprint. The use of non-petroleum fueled car stock is benefits to the economy and the environment. We should not worry about the financial losses from the PRC government, as this green investment will turn gold when the world is coming down from peak oil.  Actually I was in Oregon couple days ago, USA Today had an article about the West Kowloon station constructed by the MTR. US government wants to build lots of subway so they don't continually get addicted by oil, but due to financial problems and property right issues, they just can't get their act together.

Ovaltine

actually, noam chomsky said corruption is beneficial to society, i yet have the intellect to figure this out.

Ovaltine

huh? corruption is beneficial to society? do you mean triad society?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-1-5 17:34

heres a quote from arguebly the most influential intellect living today

My view, for what it's worth, is that Kennedy was probably the most dangerous president we've had. [applause] There was a really dangerous, macho streak there, which was kind of fanatic. A lot of it is coming out now in the coverage of the Cuban Missile Crisis, which is quite revealing. It looks even worse than it looked before. And an awful lot of this willingness to drive the world to total destruction looks like a matter of protecting your macho image. Now, that kind of stuff is really dangerous. It's much better -- the best political leaders are the ones who are lazy and corrupt. It's the ones who are after power - they are the dangerous ones. So the guys who want to watch television and sleep and so on, they are no big problem. I should say the same about corruption. Corruption is a very positive sign of government. You should always be in favor of corruption. If people are interested in enriching themselves or in sex or something like that, then they are not interested in power. And the most dangerous thing is the guys that want power. That's what Kennedy was like, I think. Furthermore, corruption has a way of being exposed for quite simple reasons. When people are corrupt, they are usually robbing other rich people. Therefore they are going to block people and when corruption gets exposed it weakens power. And so that's one of the ways you can defend yourself. The same is true of the evangelicals. If we had evangelicals who were really after power, we'd be in trouble. If all they want is gold Cadillacs and sex and so on, no big problem. That's good.

    * Talk titled "Necessary Illusions" at MIT, May 10, 1989 Noam Chomsky

I don't feel the need for senseless bashing of the PRC government, there are enough negative things about them already. But building subway is definitely not one of them, this is a positive investment for the future. As for corruption, I wouldn't worry so much. The problem of China lies upon inequality amongs its people, we need to focus on human rights, access of education for the less fortunate, free health etc etc.