Lik

It was only a lapping day, and there were strict protocols for passing. It was not allowed for novice drivers in the morning, and passing was only limited to the front straightaway in the 2nd half of the day. Also, a point by from the lead driver (car to be passed) is required before the trailing car (the passing car) can overtake the lead car.

Intermediate and advanced drivers had 2 straightaways as passing zones, so everything is very orderly la.

-Lik

Lik

I should mention that Derek was driving in the intermediate group, but I only qualified for the novice group~

-Lik

Lik

The thing you definitely want to do is to completely lift throttle when you are half way through the corner. The tail end will come around, and you car will spin out. I heard those are fun.

Other than that, as long as you don't do anything stupid, you're gonna be fine la.

-Lik

Lik

Well, Philip, racing can certainly get expensive, but I also think it's only a matter of how much you want to / will allow yourself to spend.

When you already have a car, the only immediate extra costs you are looking at for the Mission track are:

- an oil change before your race
- probably a brake flush before the race

Tracking your car will require accelerated preventive maintenance. Reasonable consumables in addition to the 2 above items will probably include more frequent transmission oil changes, more frequent brake pads and rotor replacement, more frequent tire replacement, and that's probably about it. But mind you, these costs are generally spread over a reasonable period of time. And if you don't have a super competitive mindset and just want to have some good, fast, and legal fun, the wear and tear costs don't really go up that fast.

As somebody says, doing a track day is cheaper than getting a speeding ticket~ If you only plan to do 1 track day a year, a $500/yr budget will probably be enough. It may sound like a lot for just one day, but part of that $500 includes regular maintenance you would have done on the car anyway.

We have another lapping day in late September. Think about it la?

-Lik

Lik

completely lift throttle when you are half way through the corner?  u mean.. before for after apex? or is the speed to fast entering the corner?
ACC-HE 發表於 2010-6-30 22:00

In case I didn't quite make the joke obviously enough, you do not -- I repeat, you DO NOT want to completely lift throttle when you are going through a turn. Backing off a bit is probably ok, but if you completely lift throttle at any point during your turn, there is a very good chance that your car's tail end will whip around, and the car will spin out.

If you do that at Mission, you either end up on the grass, or you end up kissing the concrete wall.

-Lik

Lik

It's all a matter of simple weight transfer and traction.

When you're going into / ripping through a corner at speed with at least a partial throttle, weight is concentrated on your back wheels. If you suddenly lift throttle, weight transfers from the rear wheels to the front, and along with the weight transfer, traction is lost at the rear wheels and gained at the front wheels. The change in traction along with the car's momentum (of not wanting to turn) will very easily cause your rear tires to break traction. The result is a oversteer, or worse, a spin out.

Not something you want to do when there is a car chasing you at 100+ kph.

-Lik

Lik

Well, BG, my comment was meant to be more of a general one, although it could certainly apply to the Mission track as well. In fact, it was probably the cause of the concrete-kissing incident we had a Mission on Monday. Purportedly, an MR2 came out of T9 (last corner before the straight) a little too aggressively, and the rear end came a bit loose. The driver was probably taken by surprised and lifted on the throttle. I'm guessing that he must have done this while he was trying to countersteer. Snap oversteer ensued, and the car's rear corner + quarter panel.

All I'm saying is, unless you are really planning on getting some throttle lift oversteer, you generally wouldn't want to lift mid-corner. And with Acche's TSX, he did some stuff with it, and the back end might be easier to whip around.

-Lik

Lik

For typical usage, there is nothing wrong with stock ge. In fact, stock is generally a very good balance of all the factors that are involved. But you know it's more fun when you tweak the car here and there to better suit your needs mah.

And hey, even though your car is in stock class, it isn't really completely stock la?

-Lik

Lik

Here is the autox/track weapon you're looking for, Acche~

http://forum.ubcscc.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3976

-Lik

Lik

TRADE : for Acura TSX? haha... no!
ACC-HE 發表於 2010-7-5 09:22

You said it yourself that your TSX was gutless and porky ar mah. The AP1 S2k will still be gutless in the first 6k, but then when VTEC kick in, you're in the VTEC la la land, yo~!

And of all things, this guy wanted to do a trade with the TSX. If that wasn't perfect, I dunno what is la~

-Lik