Shame on the (federal) Liberals and NDP!!! NDP, Shame, Liberals, federal

Lik

http://www.vancouversun.com/oppo ... /1017518/story.html

My letter to Her Excellency Michaelle Jean, PM Harper, and scumbag Dion/Layton:

To Her Excellency Michaelle Jean, Prime Minister Harper, Mr. Dion, and Mr. Layton,

It is with great disgust and much anger that I am writing to protest against the dirty political ploy put together by the Liberals and the NDP.

I will be quite frank here – when Canadians from coast to coast headed to the polls on October 14, 2008, we have spoken as a whole and voted for the Conservative Party to be our biggest political representatives in the House of Commons. Following our proud nation's long standing democratic traditions, this also means we, as Canadians, have voted for the Conservative Party to lead a minority government on Parliament Hill with the Conservative Party leader, Mr. Stephen Harper, as our Prime Minister. The matter has long been settled – for a good month and a half, Canadians from coast to coast (and this includes members of the Liberal Party and the NDP) have all agreed to honour and respect the results of the federal election and recognize Mr. Harper as our Prime Minister.

Had the Liberals and the NDP wanted to form a coalition government and elect Liberal leader, Mr. Stephane Dion, to be Canada's Prime Minister instead, they should have proposed the plan to Her Excellency, Michaelle Jean immediately following the election. Such a proposal would have deviated from the traditional process of Canadian elections, but at least the sore losers' salvage attempt could be disguised as a fresh political revival to our age-old system.

But time for such opportunities has passed. To call for a Liberal-NDP coalition government to replace the Conservative minority, and to replace Mr. Harper with Mr. Dion as the Prime Minister, is a blatant insult to Canada's long-standing democratic process. After all the political bickering and gesturing, and given all the backroom political dealing and scheming that have been revealed, it is plainly obvious that the Liberal Party and the NDP have no regard for the goods and interests of Canada in their minds. Their only concern is to shamelessly satisfy their lust for power, Canada be damned!

As the Opposition to our minority government, the Liberal-NDP coalition is bestowed with the power to overthrow the Conservative minority government via a vote of (no) confidence. In light of that, I welcome the Liberal-NDP coalition to exercise their right to a no confidence vote. But, following such votes of (no) confidence, the proper procedure under the Canadian democratic process dictates that Her Excellency, Michaelle Jean, must dissolve parliament and call for a new federal election.

Instead of relying on slimey backroom dealings and dirty political scheming to decide who forms our parliament and who serves as our prime minister, I know that nation-wide, Canadians will accept nothing less than the open and fair democratic system that has dutifully served us for over 140 years.

-Lik of Vancouver, BC

Lik

I urge fellow LYKs to look at what is happening on Parliament Hill, and think for themselves that should a new federal election come again, who would you vote for and why you would vote for him and his party.

Politics and democracy is about choosing the lesser of the two (or three) evils.

-Lik

Lik

To those who think there is very little you can do, or think there is very little you can change, please bear in mind that as an individual, you probably can't do much. But collectively, our voices will be heard.

To express your concerns and disgust on this matter, I urge you to contact Prime Minister Harper, Liberal leader Dion, NDP leader Layton, and the MP of your riding. Their email addresses can be found on the following page:

http://webinfo.parl.gc.ca/Member ... rent&Language=E

I would also urge you to contact Governor General, Michaelle Jean. Her contact information can be found here:

http://www.gg.ca/contactus/index_e.asp

I welcome every LYK to use my letter here as your own starting basis. Feel free to make changes as you see fit, or if you want to, you can even copy and paste the exact letter that I wrote. I only ask you to add your full name, mailing address, and telephone number at the end of your letter to identify yourself to the GG Jean and the MPs, signifying that the letter came from an independent Canadian.

If you support the Liberal-NDP coalition, I urge you to make your voice heard as well.

Exercise your right and put democracy to work. Not everyone in the world can enjoy this luxury.

-Lik

Lik

原帖由 soli 於 2008-12-1 21:31 發表
我沒有投票給保守黨﹐大部份加拿大人亦跟我一樣。如果代表大部份加拿大人既政黨反對保守黨繼續執政﹐少數服從多數﹐將保守黨拉下來有何不可﹐而且這是憲法所允許的。

保守黨在競選時期沒有提出任何挽救經濟的措施﹐執政後也漠視其他政黨對刺激經濟的要求﹐獨斷獨行。一個少數政府﹐如果一直不能跟其他政黨合作﹐繼續執政下去﹐對加拿大又有甚麼好處呢?

Soli,

You are quite correct here. As the Opposition to the minority government, the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc have every right to vote down the Conservative minority via a vote of non-confidence. As written in my letter to the GG, I welcome them to exercise the power that Canadians have bestowed them.

However, I am protesting against the Liberal-NDP coalition government that was brokered behind closed doors between the sore-losing Liberals and the ever-opportunistic NDP. It is obvious that for 6 weeks, they have accepted their role as the opposition and recognized Harper and the Conservatives as the PM and the governing party. The dust has settled, and that's that! Had they made the coalition government proposal to GG Jean 6 hours after the Oct 14 election results were in, there might have been some degree of legitimacy to their proposal. Heck, had GG Jean offered government to this coalition at that time instead of handing it to the Conservatives, I might be inclined to accept it as well. But to cry foul now and attempt to sneak a coalition government in to replace the Conservatives shows how little they respect the rules of the Canadian democratic system.

To make matters worse, the coalition proposal wants to instate Dion as our lame duck PM for 5 months, after which the PM seat would be determined by the Liberals leadership race, as opposed to by Canadians in general. I just have to ask -- just since when did Canadians allow a selected group of people to choose our prime minister for us? As I recall, Canada is a country that practices universal suffrage.

-Lik

Lik

原帖由 soli 於 2008-12-1 21:55 發表
這次金融海嘯﹐讓自由市場主義再次破產。為挽救經濟﹐各國政府經濟政策也向左傾斜﹐連號稱最自由經濟體﹐失業率還在4%以下的香港﹐也保證不削減政府開支﹐避免增加任何對經濟不利的因素。

偏偏有我們的保守黨﹐基於意識形態的限制﹐遲遲未能對現在惡劣的經濟環境作出任何適當反應﹐只懂賤賣國家資產﹐削減開支這些右派技倆(即不干預市場)﹐逆天而行。更以削減開支作為打擊政敵的籍口﹐以本傷人﹐令其跟其他政黨的合空間完全消失。

所以這次反對黨派要聯手推倒保守黨﹐絕對合情合理兼合法。很多人害怕政局不穩定﹐但兩害相權取其輕。若保守黨繼續執政﹐亦只會是一跛腳鴨政府﹐難以應付目前經濟環境。自由黨的理財能手不少﹐在經濟措施方面﹐我對自由黨帶領下的聯合政府更具信心~

Soli,

I hate to say this, but your post reveals how little understanding you have towards the Canadian economy. While the US recession will invariably drag the Canadian economy down to a certain extent, Canada is in a far better shape than the US is. The Canadian financial system remains strong, and in particular, our banking system is in a far better shape than what the US is struggling with. As a matter of fact, experts agree that among the G20, Canada is arguably in the best financial shape. Just because the US is throwing money every which way doesn't mean we have to do the same thing. More importantly, just because the US can afford to do this doesn't mean Canada can -- like it or not, the USD is the world currency, and that means the Feds has a licence to print money. The Bank of Canada, unfortunately, is not the Feds.

The "coalition" government's proposal to help the Canadian auto manufacturing sector completely misses the point as well. The Big 2.5's are shutting down plants left and right because the cars these plants make are not selling down in the US. What good does it do for Canada when this coalition government wants to keep these plants open? The Big 2.5 needs a re-structring plan coming straight from Detroit, not money from the Canadian government to keep uncompetitive plants open.

Once again, Soli, do not mislead others into thinking that the coalition government proposal is legitimate. No Canadian should challenge the Opposition's right to vote down the Conservative minority government, but the coalition government proposal is a completely separate issue. Canadians need to choose who our governing party and who are Prime Minister are, and as far as my 6-week memory can remember, Canadians as a whole has chosen the Conservatives and Stephen Harper to lead this country. We did not choose to instate a Liberal-NDP coalition government, nor were they invited to govern by the Governor General. We did not choose Mr. Dion to be our PM for 5 months, only to be replaced by a Liberal candidate that we have no say in choosing. To go along with the coalition government proposal will inflict a severely damaging wound to the Canadian democratic system.

So go ahead and vote the government down. Take us to the polls once again and let Canadians from coast to coast decide who will be our country's leader and governing party.

-Lik

Lik

原帖由 soli 於 2008-12-2 00:23 發表
很奇怪呢~
如果在選舉結束後﹐自由黨和新民主黨立刻申請要成立聯合政府﹐會得到魁人黨的支持嗎? 不會吧~
為甚麼現在就可以呢?
是保守黨執政後太自大和卑鄙了﹐可惡得在國會裡得不到任何其他反對黨的支持。
總合我上面所說﹐說組聯合政府合情合理兼合法。
合法者﹐乎合加拿大憲法。
合情: 保守黨欺人太甚﹐反對黨派乃狗急跳場而已~
合理者﹐經濟環境改變﹐右派政權倒台乃大勢所趨﹐而聯合政府所代表的是過半數加拿大人﹐這正正體現了少數服從多數的民主精神。

I wonder how you can jump to the conclusion that the coalition government proposal can be legitimate now.

As I have mentioned already, the Opposition has every right to overthrown the Conservative minority government. This was written into the law books, and is the rules that everyone abides by.

On the other hand, to put forth a coalition government proposal 6 weeks after the Conservative government is re-instated is playing against the rules. The Liberals and the NDP have already accept their role as the opposition. And now they want to turn the tables?! How does that ever have any legitimacy?

As an example, Soli, I suggest that you try signing a contract now, only to breach it 6 weeks later. Does the other signing party have the right to sue you for damages? You bet they do.

-Lik

Lik

I wrote to all the MPs earlier in the week, and among the typical Conservative platform responses that I got back from many of them, I found John Weston's reply to be the most substantial. (John is the Conservative MP of West Van, Sunshine Coast, and Sea-to-Sky region.)

In his email reply, he said the following:

原帖由 John Weston
Finally, if Liberals suggest this Conservative government is not legitimate because it did not receive 50% of the popular vote, I would remind them that no Liberal government in Canadian history has ever received 50% of the vote (that has only happened twice – by Conservatives in 1958 and 1984), and I can’t remember Liberals ever suggesting that the three majority governments won by Jean Chretien in 1993, 1997 and 2000 with 41.3%, 38.5% and 40.8% of the vote, respectively, were somehow less than legitimate.

For more than 140 years, despite the fact that parties almost never get 50% of the popular vote, our parliamentary system has produced stable and legitimate governments. In my view, this is not a weakness of our system. It is an enviable record of balancing three principles necessary for any successful electoral system – democracy, legitimacy and stability.

With such obvious lies, It is clear to me that the Liberals are only interested in playing political games and finding ways to put their own interests ahead of those from Canadians. Shame on these hypocritic scumbags!!!

For those who are buying into the argument that the coalition deserves to take government because they received the majority of Canadians' votes, are you still supporting their cause in the face of this blatantly obvious lie?

-Lik