Lik

You point being?

I don't know much about this high speed rail. But I certainly hope it isn't anything like the Shanghai magnetic high speed train...

-Lik

Lik

They are building the largest highspeed railway system in the world. It is going to help them reduce the use of cars, unlike those gasoline wasting people in North America.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-21 23:51

Funny how you are saying this because China has already become the largest automotive market in the world, and recently, in the wake of the global recession, the Central Government was strongly encouraging its citizens to adopt the "gasoline-wasting and environmentally unfriendly ways of North America" by buying more cars.

It is pointless to compare methods of travel between North America and China. With its sparse population density and vast expanses of land, it is illogical for many places in NA to invest in mass transit infrastructure in the same way China does. In China where the population density is high, however, trains as a form of mass transit make a lot of sense.

The problem is, I can't help but wonder whether a lot of these are simply 面子工程 or not. The Maglev train in Shanghai is a prime example of 面子工程 because the track spans a mere 30km and has been a complete commercial failure. People rarely use it, so the train is operating nowhere close to its carrying capacity. And while it can reach over 500km/h, the track is so short that the moment it approaches its maximum speeds, it really had to start decelerating again.

China has indeed been expanding its mass transit systems (train) for the past few years, and in the wake of the global recession, the government has accelerated a lot of the projects to both re-employ hundreds of thousands of laid off workers and stabilize the economy. By and large, those are some very good deeds, but the 面子工程 aspect of the construction cannot be ignored. Unfortunately, the only thing ignorant idiots know and go around boasting about are those very same 面子工程...

-Lik

Lik

First of all, I think it is quite obvious that whoever wrote this last reply is not the same usual 50 cent Peter we're used to seeing. This writer behind the keyboard is far too civil and sophisticated compared to the normal idiot that monitors this site.

If I have to fathom a guess, there is at least one usual idiot 50 cent party member logging in at Peter to LYK. For the most part, he does a good job of humiliating himself and exposing the irony and illogical thinking so common in the Motherland. When the limits of his capabilities run out, however, he can resort to his superior(s) and ask them to log in using the same account to actually write something that is intelligent.

A side note is that, while the Chinese government gives subsidy to car buyers during this economic crisis, they do have measures to encourage the production of more hybrid and electric cars.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-22 11:59

For China, R&D-ing hybrid and EV's are really out of necessity because the Central Government is vividly aware that no amount of oil and foreign country bribing (oh, I think that's called international diplomacy...) is enough to satisfy 1.3 billion people's consumption. Again, this is a smart move and some extremely good foresights on the Central Government's part. With all its rivers throughout the land, China has great potential for hydroelectric power production, making hybrids and EVs a totally reasonable solution. Additionally, China has a good amount of lithium reserves that could be mined as well, and that'll also give it a massive advantage as it doesn't have to beg too many other countries to provide the electric power storage solutions.

-Lik

Lik

面對住斯文人我會禮數周全，同啲蠻不講理嘅人我絕對唔介意扯到盡咁去串佢同打爛仔交。

-力

Lik

When Lik makes his false claims, I then rebuked him with facts. Very often he just pretends he didn't see my points and then he would repeat his points again in the reply. That is his way of evasion.
peter236 發表於 2009-9-24 23:22

笑咗～

對啲五毛仔來講，阿爺講嘅說話咪係金科玉律囉。你可以繼續叫呢啲做 fact，但我只會當佢地係狗屁不如嘅廢話。

好多時其他網友已經道破咗你啲廢話，咁我又使乜再講咁多？

-力

Lik

It never fails to amaze me how hard 50 cents idiots try to distort the facts, even when they are in plain sight:

It is pointless to compare methods of travel between North America and China. With its sparse population density and vast expanses of land, it is illogical for many places in NA to invest in mass transit infrastructure in the same way China does. In China where the population density is high, however, trains as a form of mass transit make a lot of sense.

The problem is, I can't help but wonder whether a lot of these are simply 面子工程 or not. The Maglev train in Shanghai is a prime example of 面子工程 because the track spans a mere 30km and has been a complete commercial failure. People rarely use it, so the train is operating nowhere close to its carrying capacity. And while it can reach over 500km/h, the track is so short that the moment it approaches its maximum speeds, it really had to start decelerating again.

China has indeed been expanding its mass transit systems (train) for the past few years, and in the wake of the global recession, the government has accelerated a lot of the projects to both re-employ hundreds of thousands of laid off workers and stabilize the economy. By and large, those are some very good deeds, but the 面子工程 aspect of the construction cannot be ignored. Unfortunately, the only thing ignorant idiots know and go around boasting about are those very same 面子工程...
Lik 發表於 2009-9-22 09:51

Remember the time when you said I supported the HST, and how I quote my complain letter to Gordie and Hansen?

So who is the idiot here?

-Lik