somewhereintime

1# soli
Well, Raymond Cxxn will agree with you for sure

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3# salad_bread
According to Red Cross China, they verified 2, 600 death as of June 5, 1989,
from any news video clips, mostly from H.K. you would see  1000's of bullet holes on civilian building,
Civilians helped rushing seriously wound students to hospitals, just before
the curfew.

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5# tofu

I sent donation to Red Cross China frequently , for the floods, earthquake relief etc.
I care for the people in China despite I do not agree with the CCP government.
I used to send oil and rice to relatives in China back in 60's & 70's.

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7# salad_bread
Sorry ,I did not watch that clip,
Thousands people died in vain, even it is only a fraction of the entire gathering, is too many.  I think I can trust Red Cross China because I keep sending donation to them.
I would not doubt some lucky students got away without harm, but any responsible
government would cherish their people better. And, I just hate the  ignorant attitude of Li Pang and Yuan Mok.

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9# daimo

Yes, they do not involve politics, their role is to rescue and distribute
necessary  resources

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10# salad_bread
Finally I seen it, make me laugh

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14# soli
Who gave the CCP mandate to monopolize the government in China??
Why  they cannot be criticized  for wrongdoing?
Why they cannot be challenged and replaced by another political party?
How much Hong Kong raised to fund the students in Beijing to overthrow the CCP??
Tens of Billions??? compare to the wealth the CCP controlled, it is peanuts.
Would be much easier to bribe the army.

somewhereintime

It is not point to argue here anymore, I'll be attending the June 4th vigil, anyone going?

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18# Lik

I do not agree with CCP ,  it does not mean that I'm against Chinese people in China.
It is the corruption and dictatorship of bureaucrats I oppose, and the black-hearted merchant I hate.

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21# soli
It is a joke, they don't even  comply the constitution themselves,
beginning with Mao.
I do not really care who is in power, since I chose to leave China;
I donate to relief  natural disaster , not to fund anti-CCP campaign, and all
the fund were administered by the Red Cross China.
I  tell Caucasians that they should not compare Tibet riot to June 4th. in which
we should do as Chinese.  To me, how the CCP deals with Tienanmen incident
is like what the Japs deal with the  Nanking Massacre.