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Overpriced for piece of crap, sorry.
Check out Genesis coupe 2.0T with 233 Torque @2000 rpm.  It's better built quality than Toyota nowadays and it's around $25k.

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Hyundai is Hyundai.  It's still not match to Japanese reliability.  Plus most of their service depar ...
shutterbug 發表於 2010-3-13 01:08

    Hyundai have higher reliability and durability than Toyotas for the last 3 years.
Unless you are stuck into history, you should take another look and compare the 2 companies cars report.

Toyota has been milking on its reputation for the last 10 years and start to fall.
The new sonata is great looking for its class, look at the new camry, it looks like crap.

Anyways, the Genesis coupe is best bang for the buck, the torque is crazy, it's like a small V8 @ 2000 rpm, man.

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Agree.  It will take years to change the mindset.
ff0098765 發表於 2010-3-13 09:39

    Especially, those C9s who loves Corollas and Camrys no matter what, and are willing to pay extra for it.  It's sad even some younger generations don't look at current offerings.  Caucasians are more open minded in this sense.  Maybe it's because Asians have been brought up with "Toyota means quality" and "Korean cars means crap" since born, so deep that it covers their eyes.

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Are you kidding me?  Show me the reports please!


Genesis is good but the torque isn't crazy (2 ...
shutterbug 發表於 2010-3-13 16:33

  233 Torque @ 2000 rpm is not crazy for a 4 cylinder start at $25000?
The Mazdaspeed 3 starts at $33000.

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Compare MS3 with Genesis Coupe is worthless, $33k vs $25k.
On the other hand, Cobalt SS is a closer comparison, $27,995 MSRP vs $25k, about 10% more.  Cobalt SS is good deal as well, supercharged  260  @ 5,300.Torque 260 @ 2,000, vs
hp 210 @ 6,000 torque 223 @ 2,000.  On paper, Cobalt SS is better deal in number wise.  I heard Cobalt SS is really fast as well in real world driving.  In terms of look and trust in reliability, I would prefer Genesis coupe, but that's my preference.   And I would still suggest Genesis coupe to OP instead of Cobalt, because it's closer price to what the OP intend to spend.  Spend another 10% on top of Genesis is stretching too far.

The new Mustang 2011 is a monster in Performance / Price too.  But you need to consider, 6.99% finance.  That's quite high, and adds to the price and make it more expensive that Genesis Coupe.  Also, you need to take a look of the ****ness of seat, interior and look.   

So, can you tell me what's the best look, performance, reliable car is around $30k after everything included at 60 months finance?  The XRS should be around 26k to 27k after everything.

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Well it is, compared to what the op is buying for that price range.
What other cars have that?  Only Mustang and Cobalt SS?  Both are crazy torque/price too.

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Yeah, the 2011 Mustang is crazy in performance this year.
Anyone who really wants power, look no further.

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****, but why does it have to look so fugly, both interior and exterior?