BiscottiGelato

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匿名 發表於 2010-11-3 14:09

You guys always criticize the rich, and demand less tax, more benefit, etc to the poor. It sounds good, but it doesn't work as well.

Giving tax breaks to the rich, and giving tax breaks to investments encourages people to make more money, and to invest more. Productivity and investments are what drives the economy, makes the country strong and in the end, everybody on average will benefit.

Giving tax breaks and social welfare to the poor discourages people to work, reduces productivity and in the end country becomes weaker and the economy just goes down the drain.

Obviously you have to balance it out so that the poor won't starve too badly or something, and it's easier said than done when achieving that balance. Not to mention that different people define 'fair' differently... But to think that taxing the rich to death so that the poor can just not pay anything just counters natural selection, and are systems that destines to fail. This is why socialist system always fails (NDP, pre-80s CCP, etc).

BiscottiGelato

If you think socialist systems always fail, obviously you have no understanding of how European coun ...
Lik 發表於 2010-11-3 20:39

Definately not among the strongest economies in the world, are they? The countries you mentioned still have a largely capitalistic backbone with a socialistic tendency. For true socialism, you have to look at Mao and Soviet regimes.

Anyways, the more socialist a country is, the more likely a country is to fail (and everybody dies poor). The more capitalist a country is, the more likely there's large rich/poor disparity. Do note that some people are deservedly poor because they sit on their hands with their asses and does nothing and expect hand-outs. The challenge with capitalism is not to enrich the poor, but to establish a fair system such that ones that are more productive and more insightful to end up to be rich, instead of just allowing the rich continue to be the rich.

BiscottiGelato

Definately not among the strongest economies in the world, are they? The countries you mentioned s ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2010-11-4 00:31

i take that back as I didn't do my research. It does seem that Norway and Sweden not only have some of the highest quality of living in the world, but also some of the highest GDP per Capita in the world. They are regarded as a capitialist welfare state. Citizens do receive a lot in terms of education and health, which helps make sure everyone maximizes their potential for success. In return they are taxed heavily.

Not knowing about other details like minimum wage policies, union control and power structures, etc. I don't know if the success of these countries are due to their welfare, or due to other reasons. More-over, a heavy tax and high welfare structure does not simply mean that they are a socialist society with state controlled wealth distribution and free food for those who sit on their asses. Weather they are a good model applicable to every place every where, it's yet to be seen.