chunsh

對不起，不是挑戰什麼，而是真的想再問 ... 在天安門事件中，為什麼把政府和學生放在同等地位來問責呢？他們不是處於同等權力位置啊。

例1： 你 babysit 個衰仔，他又要玩火又要玩刀，還說粗口... 最後，你斬斷他的 ...
goldie 發表於 2009-6-5 09:29

一大班人﹐就算開頭點樣有大志都好﹐group埋一班"ou" 係一笪地方太耐﹐總會變成
一o的大家都唔想見到既situation。仲有﹐係o甘既situation之下﹐樹大﹐一定有
"fu"枝。我聽一個北京來的朋友講﹐民運後期(鎮壓之前)係有人打死過解放軍/武警
(拿唔好話我道聽途說呀﹐你地好多的所謂見證﹐都係話聽當時話自己係現場既人講
)。
我係政府﹐我都會選擇清場。我會預期我會有槍聲﹐因為人太多﹐太亂。你鎮壓﹐
更有人反抗。場面控制唔到既﹐我會叫軍人/武警開槍(要知道﹐天安門個陣時甘多
人﹐如果你係武警﹐以武警/平民既比例﹐一人爆你一個樽﹐都幾係野呀)。

不過﹐我就唔會一開始就開槍﹐同埋我點都唔會用坦克黎壓人o羅

chunsh

總之用軍隊對付自己國家手無寸鐵既平民就點講都唔通。
d學生可能係玩大左，但係佢地唔抵死
最衰就係屈佢地顛覆政府，仲要殺左咁多人都唔認。

如果64中國政府無錯，加拿大都唔會有咁多香港人啦 ...
siumaibb 發表於 2009-6-5 10:21

其實﹐我相信呢度好少人會真係認為中國政府一的都無錯o羅
你地唔好好似小步殊o甘(唔岩意見就係敵人先得架)

chunsh

其實好簡單，你所有嘅論點，聚即至最後嘅呢一句：

就反映晒你同我嘅分別：你堂而皇之咁話 "國家穩定" 比其他一切 -- 包括人命同無辜嘅犧牲 -- 都來得重要，而小弟則覺得人命凌駕於所謂嘅 "國家穩定"。你可以話我唔 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-7 09:45

before applying democracy to a group of people, that group of people MUST (yes, must) have received the western education for years. At least the adults in that group of people already have the western democracy values in their mind. Otherwise, democracy will NOT work! since they dont know how democracy work and what would be the consequence that they, the citizen, misused their democratic power. 做事要有先後

chunsh

You call that a general election and that is the general election you asked for? Sorry, please look up the history book and learn more about it.

By the way, do you know when is the time women in Ca ...
rockypath 發表於 2009-6-7 13:21

yes, and that so-called "general election" lead to the result that more people prefer communism instead of so-called democracy.
從來政權交替(外族入侵除外)﹐都係當時政府大失民心以至民怨沸騰﹐才會有別的political
party (or army) 去取代當時的當權者
and some people called that democracy success???
come on~~~

chunsh

Either right or wrong, it is people's  right to choose their government.
We may make a wrong decision  choosing  the wrong leaders, but we also
have the right to  un-elect them, that is democracy, in  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-7 14:53

I can tell u, u are absolutely wrong
yes it is, look at some third world countries in africa. those countries was trying to apply democracy. however, the normal people are not ready yet. They don't know how to choose the right one and they elected a dictator which is more dictative than their former government(or same)

and u know, the result of choosing the wrong government took how many lives because of the dictative polices that the so-called elected governemnt has applied on the citizen, the next few revolutions or civil wars

do u want to buy a bread with millions of dollars?

chunsh

Chobit,

本來我今朝好唔得閒，但係見到你個 post 就真係火都來埋。因為你身為人父，所以我就問你呢個問題：假如有個死靚仔今日爆咗入你屋企，用槍虐殺咗你個小朋友，然後再用架車輾過佢條屍。你自己雖然無親身睇見 ...
Lik 發表於 2009-6-8 09:38

nobody here agree the chinese government use tanks and guns to kill the citizen is right. Chobit was just stating the fact that when every change of the political situation, lossing massive lives would happen 請你不要選擇性地ignore我們說話的意思