peter236

You smartie, just look at the Aircare program here. They looked for gases like sulphur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide from your car.

I am just using your wierd logic. You don't have a clue of what you are saying. You don't even understand the function of the modern government. Since you think anything that is not profitable should be privatized, like highways, Translink, education etc. Why stop at these? Why not do more, hahaha?

Enough have been said about your irrational way of thinking.

myversa

do we really have to call people 腦殘 and moron in order to argue and express our point of view?

kipposhi

That only means the direction and policy that school board takes is wrong but it does not mean that a country should not have its school board to govern school policies.  Without school board, teacher can teach whatever they want and there will be no standard.  There will be no size limit for one school and all the people can go to whatever the "good" school and leave "bad" school empty.
myversa 發表於 2010-2-9 08:32

When operating a school is a kind of business, the boss of the school can decide what a good teacher is, which teacher should be hired, how much each particular teacher should be paid, how many students can enter that school, etc.  If a teacher teaches useless materials to students, how likely the students (or parents of the students if the students are too young) would choose that teacher's courses?  Then, if that teacher cannot generate profit for the boss, would the boss fire that teacher?  If the boss pays abnormally high wages to those "bad teachers", can the school still be able to survive?  In the long run, those unsuccessful schools would be selected against.  Only those successful schools can survive.  This is how the market works.

kipposhi

do we really have to call people 腦殘 and moron in order to argue and express our point of view?
myversa 發表於 2010-2-9 12:35

The term 腦殘 is an honor for some special people.

快樂牛郎

Selling health insurance across the state border is illegal.

???  You can definitely sell insurance in multiple states.  You just need a separate plan for each.

Yes, I mean regular office visit.  This is one of the reasons driving the premium up.

I dunno where you got your information from.  It's pretty obvious that preventive care lowers medical cost.

The cost of outpatient usually is not high.  But when this kind of service has to be included in health insurance, the premium will go up as the expected claims increase even the insureds do not claim it.

So I guess what you are saying is that office visits are included in your premium but many people do not see the doctor regularly.  So what you are suggesting is a catastrophe plan that only covers major hospital visits.  If this is the case, people would stay away from going to their family doctors and hit the ER every single time.

Many laws passed by the government are ridiculous.  Lobbying in US by special interest groups and unions is a very serious problem.

Lobbying is a product of privatization.  Get your logic straight.  I have not seen medical providers or drug companies lobbying the Canadian government.

快樂牛郎

Why should everything be privatized?
1.  Because you don't know the function of government.
2.  Because you don't know mathematics, you may not be able to understand it.

Throw us some real mathematics and data, instead of blanket statements.

kipposhi

???  You can definitely sell insurance in multiple states.  You just need a separate plan for each.
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-2-9 13:47

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122282743245193057.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB ... 60923109310680.html

I dunno where you got your information from.  It's pretty obvious that preventive care lowers medical cost.
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-2-9 13:47

When outpatient clinic is included in the health insurance plan,  the expected claim number goes up.  Then the premium will go up too.
If you know how to calculate insurance premium, you will understand.

So I guess what you are saying is that office visits are included in your premium but many people do not see the doctor regularly.  So what you are suggesting is a catastrophe plan that only covers major hospital visits.  If this is the case, people would stay away from going to their family doctors and hit the ER every single time.
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-2-9 13:47

Insurance companies can offer plans, for example, outpatient and critical illness, separately.  What is eligible to claim is limited by different types of insurance policy.  Simply look at the example in HK.  You can see the health insurance premium is not high, way lower than that in the States.

Like other insurances, insured's claim will increase the insurance premium in next renewal.

Lobbying is a product of privatization.  Get your logic straight.  I have not seen medical providers or drug companies lobbying the Canadian government.
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-2-9 13:47

Don't you see the problem of lobbying by unions in Canada?  Why are employers not allowed to hire workers other than union workers when union workers are on strike if there is union in that company?

kipposhi

"Why should everything be privatized?
1.  Because you don't know the function of government.
2.  Because you don't know mathematics, you may not be able to understand it."

Throw us some real mathematics and data, instead of blanket statements.
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-2-9 13:49

Sorry, I made a typo.  I mean "Why shouldn't everything be privatized?"

You want some date. no problem.

http://www.hoover.org/publications/digest/3532186.html

kipposhi

You smartie, just look at the Aircare program here. They looked for gases like sulphur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide from your car.

I am just using your wierd logic. You don't have a clue of what you are saying. You don't even understand the function of the modern government. Since you think anything that is not profitable should be privatized, like highways, Translink, education etc. Why stop at these? Why not do more, hahaha?

Enough have been said about your irrational way of thinking.
peter236 發表於 2010-2-9 12:30

You can go back to read my replies.  If you do not read them, it is meaningless for me to reply to any of your posts.

myversa

When operating a school is a kind of business, the boss of the school can decide what a good teacher is, which teacher should be hired, how much each particular teacher should be paid, how many stud ...
kipposhi 發表於 2010-2-9 13:46

sometimes you cannot use school logic on operating a school.  In business, people want to make money; in another way, if there is no school board, there is no free school up to grade 12.  There will be some kids who cannot afford going to school like old times.  Only rich kids can afford to graduate.  

In addition, there will be no school board to govern which material to teach in which grade so each school would teach different things.  When you said, I graduate from grade 12 and people still do not know what your level is.  Good teacher is hard to define too.  Good teach as in giving student good marks so they can get into university easily and thus the school has higher percentage of enrolling into university; that will be what happen when there is no provincial test;

Bad policy by school boards does not mean that we should not have school boards at all.

I think the bad thing about Canada is union.  For example, teacher unions ask for better pay and less student to teach; this definitely would add cost to operate up.