Lik

Bun 7 Lik.  Learn how to read human words first before barking.

What I said is the controlling sy ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-9-28 12:45

Bun 7,

The moment the signalling system is not working right, it should default to red lights in the interest of safety. Only the Chinese-designed system would default to green light, as revealed by the Wenzhou accident, at times of system failure. 咁撚勁嘅設計，真係只有天朝先至做得到！

-Lik

peter236

Bun 7,

The moment the signalling system is not working right, it should default to red lights in t ...
Lik 發表於 2011-9-28 13:02

You rubbish moron, the Wenzhou signal system was already damaged by the lightning and the display system was not working normally.

lo_pak

... Feel fantasic when I see comments from the fellows here who know nothing...

One simple question... In what circumstances would the fire alarm at your home be shut off when there is a fire (even smoke) actually happened at your house?? In what conditions the system can be overrided by the technican?? Nothing fancy, but should be everything under control and monitoring...

Don't tell me how complicated the control system of the subway signal is? If it cannot pursue safety as the "most" important factor in the design... I can only conclude it is a "totally" USELESS EAT SHXT design... That is absolutely "RETARDED"...

peter236

... Feel fantasic when I see comments from the fellows here who know nothing...

One simple q ...
lo_pak 發表於 2011-9-28 14:08

The Wenzhou signal system did not need to work, once manual control was in place.
It was never about the signal system.

With manual control in place, the driver is supposed to drive the highspeed train at very slow speed and visually make sure there is no train ahead, instead of relying on the colour of the signal lights.

lo_pak

The Wenzhou signal system did not need to work, once manual control was in place.
It was never abou ...
peter236 發表於 2011-9-28 14:39

zzzzzzzzzzzzz............

Don't you "feel" sorry with the so-called "official" annoucement if it's not even "closed" to fact? (Pay the driver with $$ and make him quiet...)

I don't know, it only works for you OUR Pe...ter... Life worths nothing to you... But it worths a "BIG" part to me and most of us in jurisdiction...

Sometime if you can keep "quiet" on these posts related to "public safety" "AT" China... you... at least... show some respects from us @ LYK...

MoiRhapsody

the main issue: why was it allowed to switch to manual control at the first place???
if the signal system was damaged, everything should be stopped.
does ppl think they can beat the million-dollar worth signal system???
and the china made ATP is a joke.
It is very dumb that the front train sending signal the the rear train to stop. what if the train broke down?
it should be the track giving "permission" to the rear train to "go".
this way if everything goes wrong, every the track signal broke, it won't send out the permission to the rear train.

satil

最終底線: 無論控制中心指令, 無論司機人手操控, 列車本身都應有獨立最終的防撞系統, 絕對防止撞車, 絕對要求列車保留安全距離.

人手操控就可以飛車?? 幾時老共咁信任其人民?? 誰可保證司機人手操控時, 全心加速撞車, 病發昏倒....

在彎曲隧道中, 人手目視開車, 靠眼睇到停車, 唔好笑死人啦

rockypath

最終底線: 無論控制中心指令, 無論司機人手操控, 列車本身都應有獨立最終的防撞系統, 絕對防止撞車, 絕對要求列車保留安全距離.
satil 發表於 2011-9-28 16:33

This technology and equipment are available.  It is an independent system to ensure the safety regardless the command from the control center (of course, it can still be overrided manually or ignored the warning).   That is the reason I cannot understand how it could happen.

satil

回復 58# rockypath

This technology and equipment are available, BUT not working in any train running in China.
override? no way, the system should still CONTROL, may be manually run under 10km/hr
Ignored? no way, it should auto stop before a safe distance.

如果有司機想自殺, 想恐襲, 衝入站, 系統點都要take over!!! 咁先至可以話安全的防撞系統.

So simple, that is the reason i cannont understand how it caould happen TOO.

peter236

人手操控就可以飛車??
satil 發表於 2011-9-28 16:33

They were not 飛車. The subway was just in manual control.