somewhereintime

29# Ultraman
I didn't say so, I said I would not collaborate with corrupted people.
I've been on Federal payroll for 15 years, yet non-partisan.

Ultraman

In Canada, I can say to Harper face to face:
"To hell with you, Harper"  without any consequence.
Have you ever been driving on King Edward near Cambie?
there is a big sign  accusing  Gordon Campell  ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-3 15:30

The fact is, it's not a matter whether you have a freedom to speak to whichever government face to face "go to hell" or not, it's whether they will listen to you and make according changes up to your wish or not.

soli

I know the Czech and Hungarian government had done it in the 50's,
and of course, some small countries in Africa and South America too,
but a major civilized state?
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-3 17:29

你歷史知識o甘貧乏﹐  等李大師幫你補補課啦~

somewhereintime

Please read my post carefully,
please tell me which country sent in 150,000 elite troop to
crack down student gathering?

somewhereintime

The fact is, it's not a matter whether you have a freedom to speak to whichever government face to face "go to hell" or not, it's whether they will listen to you and make according changes up to your ...
Ultraman 發表於 2009-6-3 16:39

The difference is that Harper will not charge me for anti-revolutionary, treason and put me under house arrest and jailed without  a fair  trial.
Would you dare to do the same to the Chinese president in China?

rockypath

The difference is that Harper will not charge me for anti-revolutionary, treason and put me under house arrest and jailed without  a fair  trial.
Would you dare to do the same to the Chinese presiden ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-3 18:06

We are not trying to discuss the political difference between China and Canada.

We cannot assume there must be a massive and deliberate killing because China has a different political system.

Why there was a need of massive killing if it was true? Open fire and people were killed – YES and I don’t think we will deny that. Massive and deliberate killing? Why? I have trouble to understand. Did massive and deliberate killing really happen?

soli

Please read my post carefully,
please tell me which country sent in 150,000 elite troop to
crack down student gathering?
somewhereintime 發表於 2009-6-3 18:01

美國當年用了大概示威人數四份之一的軍隊來鎮壓。
相對於大陸用十五萬對近百萬民眾﹐  大陸算是比美國好了。

somewhereintime

There were only 4000-5000 students at Tienanmen Square

soli

不如你話得幾十個學生領袖﹐  15萬鎮壓幾十人﹐ 好無?

somewhereintime

If they arrested the student leaders by the end of May 1989, and give them
a fair trial, I will not against. But it was "Kill first, question later"
So again, all the majority medias in Hong Kong are all wrong?
they should be arrested and charged for treason?