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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1925589,00.html?xid=newsletter-daily?artId=1925589?contType=article?chn=world

In many ways, Lou Jing is a typical young woman from Shanghai. Pretty and confident, she speaks Mandarin heavily accented with the lilting tones of the Shanghai dialect and browses the malls of this huge city for the latest fashions.

But there is one thing that distinguishes this 20-year-old from her peers, something that has made her the unwitting focus of an intense public debate about what exactly it means to be Chinese: the color of her skin. Born to a Chinese mother and an African-American father whom she has never met, the theater student rocketed into the public consciousness last month when she took part in an American Idol–esque TV show, Go! Oriental Angel.

The marketing gurus for the series could hardly have dreamed of a better promotional gimmick when they started to investigate the backgrounds of the dozens of pop-star wannabes to root out the competitors' mushy stories of triumph over adversity that are a well-worn staple of the genre. Here was a tale guaranteed to attract eyeballs: a girl of mixed race, brought up by a single Chinese mother, struggling to gain acceptance in a deeply conservative, some would say racist, society.

The strategy worked — perhaps too well. In August, Lou's appearance on the show not only boosted viewer numbers but also sparked an intense nationwide debate about the essential meaning of being Chinese. Over the past month on Internet chat rooms, where modern China's sensitive issues are thrashed out by netizens long before they reach the heavily censored mainstream media, Lou's ethnicity has been the subject of a relentless barrage of criticism, some of it crudely racist. Many think she should not have been allowed to compete on a Chinese show, or at least not selected to represent Shanghai in the national competition. She doesn't have fair skin, which is one of the most important factors for Chinese beauty. What's more, her mother and her biological father were never married; morally, the argument goes, this kind of behavior shouldn't be publicized, so she shouldn't have been put on TV as a young "idol."

These kinds of posts on the most popular chat rooms have attracted thousands of comments. A few have been supportive of Lou, but the rest range from expressions of fear and ignorance to outright racism. One of the most popular posts about Lou Jing on the KDS Life forum asked in mock seriousness, "Is it possible that she is Obama's daughter?" Another poster said, "I can't believe she's so shameless that she would go on TV." Most of the critics are agreed on one point: that this black woman cannot be regarded as a "real" Chinese.

As recently as the 1970s, foreigners were largely barred from living in China, let alone marrying a local. China does not easily accept mixed-race children as true-blooded Chinese: as soon as a child is born, the parents are required to register with the authorities as to which of the 56 government-approved ethnic groups their child belongs; there are no mixed-race categories. Lou feels she is very much Chinese. "When I meet somebody for the first time, they'd often ask me how I can speak Chinese so well, and I tell them, 'Because I'm a Chinese — of course I can speak my mother tongue well,' " Lou says defiantly. "I don't like to be treated differently."

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haha, I never said I am a loser.  I just want to improve my debating skill so I can apply in real life too.  Therefore, I was using them as my testing objects in a way.  Haha.  I forget all about it once I close the browser.
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本帖最後由 zuesel 於 2009-10-9 10:53 編輯

Myversa, you are not a loser. Losing an argument doesn't make you a loser. You can participate in a debate civilized and respectifuly.
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Myversa, you are not moron or loser, you can't argue/debate with them la....  

(seems like they are morn or loser themself, that is why, they call other moron/loser as well ..  lol )

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hahaha, I do not like to read those neither...

I only read it when I was bored.  I do not think so far there is anyone who is real anti except those two la.  I sometimes just want to improve my debating skill so I replied them.  I guess I still have long way to go.  
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Myversa ..  no la..  I don't like to read those "ANTI-CANADA" and "ANTI-NON CHINA" stuffs .........

What is the point? I just hate double standard ...  

And from what I notice, those "MOR_N" just want to win arguement here ..  but then, who are they when they are back to REAL LIFE?  

Sigh .....   ( actually, I do feel sad about mr. H ...  he is a billionaire in the internet world .. but afterall? )

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spend more time here and you can keep up.  
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Aiya ..  5 pages already ...

I guess I can't keep up with all the thread ...

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本帖最後由 zuesel 於 2009-10-9 07:49 編輯
why? you should ask people like Lik, why he always want to win an argument? Anyone who participates in a discussion always thinks he/she is right. But you should be more reasonable here. You make yo ...
peter236 發表於 2009-10-9 02:25


Oh really? I could disagree? I can state my opinion??????? Wow! How contraditing, double-standard, pypocratical!!
This is what I got from disagreeing: ... "Why don't you start contributing to the Chinese high-tech industries, rather than making useless miniature models at home? You are just a pathetic self-hating Chinese.."

I didn't say I agree or disagree with Lik. I don't follow up with his nor your other postings. I don't care what he does in other posts to win an argument. But what I do know is, just from reading this one post, you make Lik gor so much of a better person than you! Simpily because he's not childlish by name calling and personal attacks!

OH, suggestion for you. Moving forward, before you reply, you should read your posts again so you won't be caught sticking your foot in your mouth.
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excuse me, we are just pointing out the bads about China government.  Chinese is not all about China government.  This topic is about Chinese not about China government.

You just like to protest china government.  They are Chinese but Chinese are not all from China.  That's one of your bad when you argue.  I am not from China so why should I be proud of what China does?  I am proud to be a Chinese.

There is a difference.

by the way, I read all his arguments and yours, yours is always sidetracked with something else and that was why I think you lost in that debates.  It's nothing to do with pro-china or not.
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