I did not mean Chinese has no passion. I meant that the player in the Chinese team in that articles has no passion. Did you see how USA became so upset after they lost the hockey game? They treated it seriously. According to your logic, USA hockey teams should not be too uptight after losing the game right? They should do what the Chinese team were doing, chatting happily on the bench?
I do not know the coach of that team so I had no comments about that coach. Maybe the coach made up the whole article but that was not my concern. I only discuss this article on sportsmanship.
Nevertheless, you still have not answer my question, if this is not a Chinese team but a Canadian team, I would still post because it's Canadian team but would you still try so hard to convince people otherwise?
I did not bash. I only tell in a sportsman's point of view. When I discuss NBA with my friends, I do not care they have Chinese on their team or not, we discuss how they played not their race. Th ...
myversa 發表於 2010-2-28 16:44
It is the same analysis with any team. You have to understand that these athletes are under pressure. You need to know how to relieve of the pressure and athletes have different ways of dealing with it. If you lost a game and you became uptight, you will lose again. You can even crack a few jokes with your teammates.
This is actually a non-issue, but the bashers are jumping on this chance. You keep on saying the Chinese has no passion. This is not only unfounded but the coach himself has since said that he is satisfied wit the team. The way I see it is that the Chinese are full of passion and they know how to deal with the pressure rather than being too uptight after losing a game.
The coach was so unprofessional with his unfounded comments. He claimed that he will not resign with Chinese team because he wants to be closer to his wife in Montreal. He claimed that some of the Chinese curlers will retire after this. But these are all irrelevant comments that should be made after the competition.
They win maybe because that news really has some impact on the team so they learned their mistake, which was very good thing. Learn from mistake. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DO WRONG AND TRY TO OVERCOME IT. They do not think they are all super-Chinese and they did not make any mistake. For this I praised them.
However when that news came out, they did not win yet so you cannot assume they can win then.
Just wondering, if the team is not Chinese, would you bash them again and again for no reason like this? There are always bashers like you who are itching to bash the Chinese whenever possible.
If th ...
peter236 發表於 2010-2-28 16:16
I did not bash. I only tell in a sportsman's point of view. When I discuss NBA with my friends, I do not care they have Chinese on their team or not, we discuss how they played not their race. This is honest truth. I started to watch NBA in 1990 when there is no any Chinese playing or any of them have been to China. Do not assume I bash Chinese.
The only thing about Chinese is that if this is not news about Chinese teams, I would not post here since this is a Chinese forum. I would still discuss with my friends that the team did not have any passion no matter what team it is.
Now you tell me, if this is not a Chinese team, would you analyze differently?
People always can get emotional after their win but you can always see how they would react when they lost. Did Canadian laugh after their loss? We do not have to believe the media but you can alway ...
myversa 發表於 2010-2-28 09:02
Just wondering, if the team is not Chinese, would you bash them again and again for no reason like this? There are always bashers like you who are itching to bash the Chinese whenever possible.
If they didn't take it seriously, how could they win? It is not easy to get any medals.
People always can get emotional after their win but you can always see how they would react when they lost. Did Canadian laugh after their loss? We do not have to believe the media but you can always watch the recorded video and see if Chinese team members did still chat happily when they were losing.
Let's say it's not Chinese team but another country team, and they did still chat happily, Peter, are you still going to defend them?
I made this point, not because they are Chinese team or their coach is Canadian. Just simply an Olympics national team do not treat the game seriously.
Maybe after the loss, those team members got a lecture from the coach or other people and changed their attitude and thus they won the medals. No one really knows. Maybe someone will post a video after the Olympics are gone, and we will know the truth.
Just wondering, if the team is not Chinese team, would you still defend it like you do now?
Haha.. discussion with Peter is always lengthy because you never read carefully. LOL.
Please read what I wrote with your glasses: "He made the complain after the Rassian game because the team's per ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-27 18:13
hahaha, of course I can quote you the news where the western media though those comments created a controversy.
Just look at how they reacted after they won the bronze medal. This proves clearly that they are passionate about the game.
It is the Canadian team that was unstable. They are the first rank team in the world, but they lost to China, and then lost to the Swedes for the gold. Where is their passion?
Defending world champion Wang Bingyu stole four in the eighth and final end to register a 12-6 win over Mirjam Ott of Switzerland in Friday's women's bronze medal game.
China opened with three in the first end and held the lead for most of the game. They stretched their lead to 5-1 with a deuce in the third frame and China had all the momentum.
But Switzerland answered back with three of their own in the next end to close the gap to 5-4.
Switzerland eventually fought back to tie the game at 6-6 in the sixth end but a deuce in the following frame put the Chinese back in front.
In the eighth end, Ott missed a take-out with her first shot, leaving a difficult draw against four on her last shot. When that draw came up light, the Chinese stole four and the Swiss decided to shake hands.
China's Canadian coach Dan Rafael, who sparked some controversy earlier in the tournament with derogatory comments about his own team, was happy with the rink's efforts on Friday.
"I just waited all week for them to show up and they did today. They did everything we told them to do and more," said Dan Rafael. "That's why I'm emotional. It's been two-and-a-half years, what can I say?"
It is the first time in three Olympic appearances that Ott has not earned a medal, having won silver medals in both Salt Lake City and Turin.
"We really had to fight back. We made a big mistake in the first and allowed three against us," said Ott. "China played well from the start. They had a few misses in between but they fought back.
It's hard. Every athlete wants to win a medal and at this moment, we're disappointed."
Later, Canada's Cheryl Bernard takes on defending Olympic champion Anette Norberg in the gold medal final. You can watch the game live on CTV and CTVOlympics.ca at 6pm et/3pm pt.
Haha.. discussion with Peter is always lengthy because you never read carefully. LOL.
Please read what I wrote with your glasses: "He made the complain after the Rassian game because the team's performance was so low."
Please quote me the news about the controversial part if you don't mind. Thx. I don't whole heartly trust western news or Chinese news and neither do you. So why this time, western media said something and you quote it and trust it so much.
Yes, nobody should and nobody would care much about what I said. Maybe you're the exception since you keep replying.
I don't see how controversial in what the coach said. The major complain from the coach is the team instable performance and their lack of passion (said by the coach).
Their game against Canada is ...
B2L2 發表於 2010-2-26 23:54
It is the western media that said those comments were controversial.
From their reaction after they won the bronze medal, they were so passionate about the game. who cares what you think?
The coach said he is satisfied with the team and his comments were unfounded.
The Chinese play was very stable. They lost to Sweden in the semi, but Canada also lost to the Swedes in the final. Are the Canadians not stable? The Sweden went on to win the gold. This is the Swedes year.
China was the third place team during the round-robin. If they are not stable, how about all the lower ranking teams?
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