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一天燒1億 京滬高鐵憂錢景
【經濟日報╱記者林則宏／綜合報導】
       
2011.04.11 02:48 am

京滬高鐵將在6月通車，但大陸媒體指出，即便不考慮收回投資、不計算折舊，光運營成本和利息支出，京滬高鐵每日固定開銷就達人民幣2,630萬元（約新台幣1.16億元），未來「錢」途堪慮。

連接北京與上海這兩座中國最重要城市的京滬高速鐵路，從北京南站出發至上海虹橋站，全長1,318公里，貫穿北京、天津、上海三大直轄市及河北、山東、安徽、江蘇四省。通車後，從北京搭高鐵將可在五小時內抵達上海。

京滬高鐵總投資高達人民幣2,209億元（新台幣9,800億元），華夏時報指出，若按大陸鐵道部的計算方式，不將建設投資納入盈虧計算，也不考慮攤提折舊費用，光是日常營運成本和償還貸款利息，每年固定開銷高達人民幣96億元，即每天至少2,630萬元。

以現行大陸高鐵二等艙票價每公里人民幣0.484元計算，京滬高鐵全程票價約人民幣600元（約新台幣2,650元）。京滬高鐵將採用的「CRH380A動車組」共有16節車廂，可搭載1,004人。即便每班列車都客滿且全部乘客都是由起點坐到終點，每號列車的票價收入也才人民幣60萬元。

這代表未來京滬鐵路必須每天滿載營運44趟，才可能應付每天的營運成本及利息等基本開銷。北京交通大學經濟管理學院副教授李紅昌指出，「京滬高鐵這種長、大幹線怎麼可能保證這樣的密度，這是很荒謬的。」

如果再考慮每年折舊率約3%至4%，京滬高鐵每年固定資產折舊費用大約是人民幣66億元至88億元（約新台幣292億元至389億元），且日後維修費用在通車後將會逐年增加。

由於京滬高鐵是委託給鐵路局代為運營，按京津城際鐵路委託費和武廣高鐵的委託費估算，京滬高鐵未來每年還得支付約人民幣30億元（約新台幣133億元）的委託運營費給鐵路局。

隨著京滬高鐵通車日期日益逼近，不少人也開始對大陸未來如何支撐這個昂貴的運輸工具感到憂心。大陸發改委綜合運輸研究所研究員董焰表示，「我覺得它的盈利狀況很難說會好。」

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rockypath

如果人地都係just speak what he knows and what he believes in 呢?
咁有冇問題? 誰是誰非? ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-4-12 00:14

Did I say there is a problem?

I had said before (if you missed it), some people enjoy displaying one side of a story and I just display the counter side of it. People on LYK will make their own judgement.

Some people 借民主自由和社會不公為名打擊其他網友推行一言堂實行討論區專政。 I just enjoy playing with those LYK 惡霸.

mcjohnjohn

Sorry, I don't really care what will happen on me. I just speak what I know and what I believe in. ...
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-12 15:59

如果人地都係just speak what he knows and what he believes in 呢?
咁有冇問題? 誰是誰非?

rockypath

回復  rockypath
其實你有冇諗過相同既事情正在發生緊o係你身上?
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-4-11 23:07

Sorry, I don't really care what will happen on me. I just speak what I know and what I believe in.

somewhereintime

回復 32# mcjohnjohn


     You know, I know and everyone know,
     only someone does not want to face it.

somewhereintime

I attend and chair board meetings every week,
another 3 meeting  scheduled tomorrow;  cannot imagine
arguing with pointless people.

mcjohnjohn

回復 31# rockypath
我好like 你呢句 - "The more Lik tris to argue with me, the more he will display his stupidity and ignorant."

其實你有冇諗過相同既事情正在發生緊o係你身上?
我唔知, 亦唔想再解釋點解我有呢個睇法, 可能我份人太牆頭, 所以就反正覺得你地好傻好固執啦. 點都好啦, 我完全冇諗過唔比大家講野(我亦冇咁既權), 我只係分享一下我既意見. 如果你係Peter 仔果d, 我真係由得你自生自滅啦~ 嘻嘻!

rockypath

因為我唔想花時間去進入一個無止境既arguement 入面.
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-4-11 22:19

The more Lik tris to argue with me, the more he will display his stupidity and ignorant.

That is the game I play with him.

By the way, if, in any case, you may feel the thing I said about my family friends' experience in India and Taiwan is fake. It is actually true story but not something I made up just tring to argue with Lik. I was about to share with Lik, but he never asked.

The story about India is actually very interesting. The 所謂民主制度 actually becomes a system to ensure 大家齊齊有分 Ｃａｐ水。 It is too bad that Lik never asked.

mcjohnjohn

Why don't you point out which part of I said is 冇point 之餘又冇準?
rockypath 發表於 2011-4-12 14:12

因為我唔想花時間去進入一個無止境既arguement 入面.

rockypath

講清楚d 啦, 不過你千祈唔好覺得好hurt wor.

小弟好多時都得rockypath 兄所講既野都冇point 之餘又冇準,  ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2011-4-11 22:01

Why don't you point out which part of I said is 冇point 之餘又冇準?

In fact, what I wanted to do was actually point out Lik 仔 冇point 之餘又冇準。

Whether you like my style or not is not my concern. I am only interested in whether those idiots can answer my questions. Are you calling Lik's 流氓無賴式的答復 rational 反駁? Sorry, I don't think it will fit my appetite.  

Why don't you demonstrate what is called "有point 之餘又有準“？ The stage is yours, don't disappoint me.