Kwantlen BBA is Unethical! BBA, Kwantlen, Unethical

ravemother

I found kwantlen's BBA program is pretty unethical. let me tell u why...

Entrepreneurial Sales and Customer Service
in a 4th-yr Sales course, i need to sell $3500 scholarship for the school in order to pass the course. many students tried so hard to do cold-callings and visits, but still failed to meet the quota. to make the situation worse, Donators can choose to donate in different time period. if they signed up for a 5-yr donation of $5000, only the first year $1000 is counted toward the student credits.

i heart that some students argued with the profs but they ended up giving in but still failed, bcuz of the prof's prejudice.

students already paid to attend the course, but still need to earn money for the school to graduate.

Entrepreneurial Leadership Practicum (6 credit hours)
in this course, students need to start to a real business for at least 6 weeks. each business is ranked by their profit. of cuz the top half of the class will pass and the bottom half will fail.

ALL business profits go to the school!!

another part of this course is a consulting project which students need to provide a consulting report to a real company. if the company does not accept or implement the recommendation by the students. the students fail this project, which also lead to a failing grade.
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i just need to vent my anger...i mean, most students are not rich and many are taking 2 PT jobs to pay for their tuition fee and textbooks, but Kwantlen still doesn't feel for our hardship and try to dig into students' pocket for more money.

i am going to take the Practicum next semester...wish me luck!

Also, any idea for a small business?? i have a few ideas in mind:
1) sell 雞蛋jie
2) sell bottle water in front of sky train, etc (some students did that b4!)

Hyde

start a business and top earner gets to pass.....  i guess all I need to do is get my accountant to make some numbers up and present it....  I can sell dog **** and earn more money then everyone else LOL

school is such a waste of time, might as well just skip school and start a business directly

rockypath

why don't you do a program like this somewhere else. maybe BCIT?

hks6

I've gone thru these courses.. At that time, I was really mad and felt exactly the same like you.   I had to take that sales course twice because I failed the first time.  However, after I finished my degree and started my business career, I found that all I've learned from Kwantlen was really really practical.  Although I am still against that scholarship selling project, I still found it somewhat helpful.  Also, in fact, in my class, there was a student, didn't make a dollar but still passed the course with a B.  What she did was answering all his midterms and finals by applying what he's taught in class appropriately.  I understand totally it is tough but for sure u'll get thru it.  

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ravemother

hey guys, I almost forgot about this post.

I have passed the sales course and practicum is my last course until graduation.

To be honest, the sales course is actually quite useful for business students. i learned many useful skills to make sales from cold callings to negotiations. the experience i gained is valuable.

simply put, the sales course is not unethical. it is a hard course but you learned a lot more than any other course that only teaches you theory.

ENTR

原帖由 ravemother 於 2008-7-23 11:22 發表
hey guys, thank you for your support.

yes i am still taking it. i'm not doing so well, not bcuz my business suck, but the top team did way too well to compete with. they make almost $4000 PROFIT in  ...

They made $4000 in the first week...by selling make-up and meat????? I bet profs "C" can't even make that much money in a week.
Do you have to give in what you have earned if you decide to drop half way through the course?
I am planning to take mine in spring 2009 as well. So I am trying to gather more information.

[ 本帖最後由 ENTR 於 2008-7-24 21:29 編輯 ]

notgoddy

I think they should measure profit growth instead from the beginning of semester to the end. But than again, the well connected will still get ahead.

I like the money system, but I don't like money-people.

pkphilip

For the same reason why I didn't bother to take practicum this semester. I knew those people since day 1, and they are too smart and some has connections to get $$$.

Since the marks are tiered based on how much the profit is, I still don't agree it should be the way.

I will be taking mine in Jan.

Philip

notgoddy

This remind of The Apprentice, except more messed up. Good Luck man.
$4000 profit a week is kind of hard for a student, cause really, who needs school if they can make that already? total bull****.

ravemother

hey guys, thank you for your support.

yes i am still taking it. i'm not doing so well, not bcuz my business suck, but the top team did way too well to compete with. they make almost $4000 PROFIT in the first week, selling frozen meat and make-up.

all my team members have dropped the class, so i am by myself for both the business launch and the business consulting.

i stayed bcuz i dun wanna give up without putting up a fight. i will try my best.

thanks people.