誠徵對汽車有認識的師兄 vancouver, Honda

alonso

0系 vancouver craigslist 度找到3 架似樣D 既 Honda Fit. 07-09 年, under 100000 km, 無意外, 9500-11000
由於第一次買車和對汽車認識不深。希望有師兄可以幫忙驗一驗車, 酬勞方面可以PM 傾。
希望各位師兄可以幫幫忙
感謝

Lik

A mechanic won't be able to tell you every problem that the car has, but he will notice a heck of a lot more than you do.

The obvious things include the quality of collision repair, engine condition, components wear and tear (belts, wheel bearings, CV joints, boots). A mechanic familiar Hondas / Fits should also be able to tell you problems that are common to that car.

-Lik

alonso

又見到有兩架sport 放緊，兩架都係07 年，行唔夠10 萬, 價錢都唔過10000。
其實拎去車房check check, 有乜現在/潛在問題都會凊楚晒？

Lik

啲 friend 好多個都話 Honda 個自動波箱渣渣地，通常過咗 100k km 之後轉波 gear slip 就會開始來料。一開始只係 slip 少少，但整吓整吓就會越來越嚴重，最後就當然係要換波箱或者 rebuilt transmission。

你波箱油換得勤啲，問題會無咁早出現，但換波箱油呢家野，唔係新車果陣已經諗住長 keep，車主多數都唔會做。

不過話返轉頭，Honda車行開行埋 150k-200k 嘅，其實通街到係。自動波箱呢個問題，我其實又唔係真係好知道有幾嚴重...

-力

B2L2

For 07-09 Fit, only the sport model has tiptronic.  The base model has the normal auto gearbox.  The sport model has 5 gears while the base model has less (4, I think?)

I have the sport model and I used +/- quite often.  My wife never touch the pedals.  The Fit's pedal shifter is behind the steering wheel.  You don't have to put it into S-mode to use them.  In normal D-mode, you could also use the - to do temporary downshift.  S-mode will require you to do all the + and -.  I seldom drive on S-mode like many tiptronic drivers unless I know I will be driving onto Sea-to-sky (or on snow since S-mode is the only way to do a 2nd gear start).

spoonek4

阿LIK俾既意見幾好，你係想搵棍波定自動波既FIT﹖SPORT型號定係base?

satil

tiptronic 基本上都是 '自動波', 一般自動波由電腦控制最合適的engine rpm, 及波段, 但tiptronic是加潻了可以 '人手' 控制電腦去(在容許範圍內)加減波. 這對日常攞架車代步的人來說是多餘的. 只會有玩車心態的人有用, 有一點手波車的控制, 但沒有多隻左腳要控制離合器的問題, 你可以玩收油拖波, 減波加油扒頭.

但tiptronic主要是多了一組電腦程序, 給你可以加減波段, 至於反應的速度由不同的設定影響, 例如, sport車的tiptronic會0.2秒以下轉波, 而房車可能慢至一秒. 又例如在容許的engine RPM及波段的變化都有不同程式的設定, 甚至在房車來說, 你要求加兩波, 系統可能只反應一次, 因為它認為RPM太低, 可能會死火. 由於所有都受限制, 你根本不會有如'手動波' 的掃牙, 燒離合器等間題.

我由2000年以用tiptronic, 三年後, 因覺得其反應慢, 在2004換車時, 就由third party改咗tiptronic個條program, 變做sport反應, happy多了. 2010轉新車才沒有用tiptronic.

我沒有發現有任何特別的維修及保養, 因其與普通的'自動波'機械上沒有太大的分別. 但很多時間, 你是忘記在tiptronic mode, 在開車起步時, 太長時間在1波, 到你發現時, RPM可能已5-6000. 浪費油.

不過前兩年, 我已轉玩DSG, 動力反應比tiptronic好很多. 不過我可以話, 大部份tiptronic的owner都是D mode用家, 重未放過去tip + - 來用.

Lik

Unless it's a dual clutch transmission (not very many cars have those yet), a tiptronic transmission is usually no different than other regular torque-converter based transmission. It usually just means there is a manual mode available for you to choose your own gears, but even then, the ECU might upshift / downshift for you.

-Lik

alonso

多謝大家回覆。
我仲想問問tiptronic transmission 有乜好處或壞處呢？
保養或維修會否比一般automatic 貴？
Thanks

Lik

Or get a new hyundai accent with warranty.
ACC-HE 發表於 2011-11-16 10:32

Good luck finding a base model Hyundai Accent. You're better off looking for a Mazda2 GX (base model) instead.

-Lik