Promotion without a raise job, currently, promotion, possible, beyond

chobit

I am facing a promotion without a raise.

I currently work as an IT Network & System Administrator for a non profit agency.

Since the last 1.5yr, my responsibility has increased greatly, that I have to do what I consider beyond the scoop of an IT Admin, but what you would expect for a IT Network Engineer + Manager.

So, I brought this up to my supervisor (Non IT), so that they can review my job, and the needs of the agency along with the possible adjustment with my pay in the future.

Today, I was presented with the following:

1> No pay raise is available at this time, and they think my pay is stil within reason.
2> My job title will change to IT Manager, yet being a manger I would be consider as exempt staff, exempt staff do not get pay for overtime when work over 40hrs.

I want to hear your opinions ... .

Nox

Maybe just consider taking the title with no pay for now.  The reason for that is to legitimately make your resume look nicer with that new title.  Meanwhile, start looking for other job, start sending out resumes.  I highly doubt that your employer would expect that you take the title with a smile but screw them afterwards.

With the new title, you can argue for better pay AND the title you deserve elsewhere.

example from ad agencies, if you are just a junior designer, even if you have the skills and experience, it's hard to ask your new employer to give you a higher position with better pay.  But if you get raised to senior designer, you can back that with your portfolio and force your new employer to put you in the senior designer position.  (They don't necessary have to know that you've been in the senior designer position for only a few months, all they usually check is that you indeed work at such and such location as such and such position, if it's real, it's good enough)

快樂牛郎

titles are for people with no real skills, so they need something to dress them up

hotaruu

In an IT industry, I would suggest you to stay and get OT pay. I personally don't really look at the title of other people when I interview Software Engineers. All I care is what they have done in previous positions. If you can explain to your future interviewers that you are doing more than what you are ask to do, that's a plus.

快樂牛郎

I agree with dmnf.  Who cares about the title if your pay doesn't match up.  There are a lot of cases where people are just given inflated job titles with no real responsibilities.

And finding a job in today's market is VERY easy.  There are millions of jobs that are unfilled.  You just need to have the right skill set to match them.

Nam

I would go for promotion without a raise because the title is so important in today job market, just get the title and experiences for now and move up in others company

dmnf

stay and get OT.  IT manager without staff doesn't mean much.  Job title is just a name.  What matter the most is whether you have real management experience.  If not, then who cares about the title.

chobit

Thanks for your feedbacks.  There is no doubt I am attached to the agency emotionally.  I will think it over tonight, and I am suppose to meet with my supervisor to talk about this in details tomorrow.

blue20ae

Take the title.  Keep in mind in these days, keeping a job is difficult let alone a raise.  With a better title, you can jump to a better $ job in the future.

fibbi

我會咁睇，長遠嚟講如果你想做management role嘅話，咁就take 呢個title，做一排就搵過第二份。如果你暫時無心轉工，咁就維持原狀攞OT pay算啦。