[中國新聞] 解 放 軍 高 層 突 訪 美 引 關 注 的, 多, 梁光烈

peter236

http://www.singtao.com/yesterday/chi/0823eo02.html

(星島日報報道)解放軍副總參謀長蔡英挺率領的中國高級軍方代表團，本周一赴美國訪問。中美雙方均未作事先預報，引起外界關注。傳代表團將向美方解釋上月試射的新型「東風-41」洲際導彈，傳其「可攜帶多達十枚分導核彈頭」、威脅美國本土。

　　這是今年五月初中國防長梁光烈訪美後僅僅三個多月，中國高級軍方代表團再次赴美訪問，因中美雙方均未對外預報消息，令外界感到「事發突然」。

　　有分析認為，中美雙方都希望增加高層軍事互訪，以增進溝通和了解，但雙方的軍事接觸還是小心翼翼的。

　　傳解放軍二炮部隊上月下旬成功試射最新型的「東風-41」洲際導彈，該型導彈戰力驚人，可攜帶多達十枚分導核彈頭，且
每枚分彈頭都能打擊「每一個人口超過五萬的美國城鎮」，引起美方關注，因而中美軍方就此進行緊急接觸

2012-08-23

BiscottiGelato

Even using BiscottiGelato's old 2009 figures. US adjusted for PPP GDP $45,755, China adjusted for PP ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-24 20:08

My bad, looked at the wrong figure. You are right. It's *only* about 6x GDP per capita per your 2011 figures, PPP adjusted.

peter236

Just 2 more years of Chinese growth make a big difference. Compare with BiscottiGelato's 2009 figures, the US GDP has increased very little by %. But for China it has increased $1 trillion for each year which is a large % increase.

For year 2011.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis ... y_GDP_%28nominal%29
GDP(nomimal)
US       $15.1 trillion
China  $7.3 trillion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29
GDP adjusted for PPP
US      $15.1 trillion
China $11.3 trillion

peter236

Even using BiscottiGelato's old 2009 figures. US adjusted for PPP GDP $45,755, China adjusted for PPP GDP $6809.

45755/6809 = 6.72.

Where did you get that US is 30x richer per capita?

peter236

Ya, US is richer than China, just about 30x~

You can believe what you want in what will happen in ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2012-8-24 13:36

I agree with you China needs to work hard for long periods of time, just like any other country. But China is one of the largest creditor of the US.
The US is richer, but a big part of that is due to financial engineering.

BiscottiGelato

US GDP will go down quickly soon, due to printing too much money. Once they stop printing money, th ...
peter236 發表於 2012-8-24 13:32

Ya, US is richer than China, just about 30x~

You can believe what you want in what will happen in the future. I hope you are right. But for that future to happen for real, a lot more work needs to be done rather than just having a big mouth and being self complacent, like a lot of the richer mainlander's attitude currently are these days.... They might be rich (because they r successful or their parents are), but their country is definately still in a very sh_tty hole...

peter236

回復  peter236

Sorry, I added a snippet late into my post.

"These are numbers from the depth of t ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2012-8-24 13:28

US GDP will go down quickly soon, due to printing too much money. Once they stop printing money, they will go off the fiscal cliff. Maybe they will do a QE3, but that will mean even more debt. All these developments can be found in financial news.

The US is currently richer than China, but the US will go bankrupt first.

BiscottiGelato

回復 14# peter236

Sorry, I added a snippet late into my post.

"These are numbers from the depth of the recession also. US recovered somewhat now, and China have cooled down a little since then. Also pay attention that US GDP > China GDP, even tho China has > 4x population of the US. So the GDP per Capital of China, even after adjusting for PPP, is about 1/30th of that of the US."

I don't think China have 30x growth in the past few years, let alone 3x. Lucky if they had 30%.

If you love the mother country China so much, instead of having a big mouth boasting the countries 'excellency', i suggest some real work to be done instead. Improve education, perhaps democracy, or even spread awareness that China as it is, still have a lot of work that needs to be done for them to be a true superpower of this world. Chinese people should definately not get complacent and content and be satisfied in it's currently still very 2nd world state.

peter236

yes.. US in debt.. but so what?  they rule the financial world.  They can print as many bill as they want.. or in reality.. they just have to press a button to put money into market electronically.
rainbow-davie 發表於 2012-8-23 14:02

They can longer print money as they wish, since they are facing the fiscal cliff. If they can print as much as they wish, they would not be in so much debt.

peter236

China vs US is just stupid talk. Chinese people really need to stay humble and work hard for them to ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2012-8-24 13:20

hahaha, using 2009 figures is missing the recent developments by a lot.