believe in god believe, god

tofu

Just a question.

If someone said he believes in god, and did the "certified" process.

1. but he doesn't  go to church, doesn't read bible, or simply do nothing, will he still go to heaven.  no one really knows he is believe in god.

2.  but he still 上香, 求簽 or seeing a fortune teller, will he still go to heaven.

rainbow-davie

我都想分享下自身經歷.
我唔係教友, 唔想亦唔會係, (基督教一定會踢我走).
但自細讀教會學校大, 身邊亦有好友及一同長大既老表係好信教既.  係佢地仲未出黎做野前, 佢地真係好投入, 真係我講少少關於基督唔岩聽既野就勁插我.  仲成日想踢我入會.  之後, 又因為本地基督團體既言論, 令我好憎恨基督教. 真係想見一個打一個.  
anyway, 到而家, 我個好友及老表無咁 "迷", 有節制咁去信. 我亦見到佢地唔再有你唔信係基督敵人既諗法.

其實, 信咩好個人, 上唔上天堂, 落唔落地獄, 定係輪迴, 甚至聽其自然係好個人既事, 你話好野, 可能未必適合我,  但就唔好人地唔入黎, 就排斥人. 非我信仰既就敵視, 生活同你地信既唔一樣就話人地係異端.  自己都未做好, 點話人地?

anyway, 到而家, 我都係無信仰, 生活好好, 有D親Buddish, 平常心視我身邊基督友人, 憎恨同抗拒其他基督人, 尤其是保守基督.

chunsh

Unfortunately, we have seen too many of those people call themselves as Christian (or at least telling others he goes to church) and behave like demon.

o甘又無demons甘嚴重
佢地只不過係同普通人無mud分別者
憎恨﹐妒忌﹐搞小圈子.....但亦有普通人善良既一面。有的重好熱心公益添(e.g.
福音戒毒﹐老人院﹐.....)
令人反感既係佢地會覺得自己係高人一等(因為佢地比我地更接近佢地所信既神)﹔

有一樣野係我近來係我身邊既基督徒朋友發現一個佢地已經改善左既﹐就係我再無
聽過一的令人火大既言論﹐好似 "黑社會同警察都拜關帝﹐關帝好明顯係好壞不分
既偶像啦"﹐etc (well, 除非你去人地教會gathering啦)。呢個係好事。

rockypath

21# chickenwingprin

For non-believers in general, it is difficult to comprehend what their Christians friends tell them about Christianity, especially hearing the first few times. However, the most direct and effective way for them to have a feel about the religion is by observing how their friends behave in everyday life.

What is their attitude of living the everyday life; how will they face difficulties; how will they treat others? Do they really love others like loving themselves?

Unfortunately, we have seen too many of those people call themselves as Christian (or at least telling others he goes to church) and behave like demon.

How convincing would that be?

meowmeowmeow

我信耶穌。你拜神。你走。
呢度大雄寶典。你信耶穌。你走。
我係警察。你係賊。你咪走。
呢度係賊竇。你係警察。
大家都拜關二哥。上注香先走。
我地 RCMP 唔拜關二哥。
我地黑幫定期捐錢比教堂。
咁。你走定我走。
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playingtoy 發表於 2009-6-22 20:14

tofu

i am neither christian, non catholic.   i haven't had any direct contact with church/bible for 10+ years.  at my knowledge, the christian/catholic should at least follow the 10 rules.  but seems like it is not important anymore.  i just try to find out are my friends the typical christian/catholic nowadays.
i don't know is my mk friend living in a good life or not, since i don't know what is the defination of "good".  but he is living in a happy life.

goldie

24# playingtoy

睇到暈晒
完全投降

playingtoy

我信耶穌。你拜神。你走。
呢度大雄寶典。你信耶穌。你走。
我係警察。你係賊。你咪走。
呢度係賊竇。你係警察。
大家都拜關二哥。上注香先走。
我地 RCMP 唔拜關二哥。
我地黑幫定期捐錢比教堂。
咁。你走定我走。
你走我咪走囉。
都話：我信耶穌。你拜神咯。
咁啦。全部返差館落口供。
但係。我上頭係神既兒子。
咪係。我上頭係媽呢媽呢空。
事諗但。再唔走就告你地非法集會。
亞蛇。聽講。老友記係我地個場喎。
哦。咁。你地繼續。

goldie

21# chickenwingprin


When you ask Tofu: do you think your mk guy friend is living a good life?
Are you implying judgment that the mk guy is not living a good life?
May be Jesus really like the mk guy because at least the mk guy is not pretentious?

chunsh

Of course, one might argue that what is there's no God. What if the bible is full of lies...well, I think it is up to each one of us to seek out the truth.

If you think you just want to live a happy life and not think about God or sin or hell or heaven, then it is your personal choice.

if everyone of you guys think in the same way as u do, there would not be so many people dislike the things that some christians do/said and the teachings.