2萬購止血藥救急 醫局捱轟認錯退款 管理局, 通用, 伊利

Lik

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/090614/4/cota.html
2萬購止血藥救急 醫局捱轟認錯退款
(明報)2009年6月15日 星期一 05:05

【明報專訊】旺角小巴車禍造成2死8傷，傷勢最重的26歲女傷者王珮仍然危殆。王父不滿女兒流血不止期間，竟需付2.1萬元購買特效「止血針」救命。醫管局昨日承認不應要求危急患者付款購藥，表示會退款，並指現存制度有灰色地帶，將會檢討。

醫院管理局行政總裁蘇利民指出，傷者所使用的「Novo Seven」非列入通用藥物名冊，伊利沙伯醫院醫生認為按當時情况，該藥有助治理失血。醫管局九龍中聯網總監熊志添承認，醫院曾要求車禍傷者付款買止血藥，但已退款。當局稍後會與其他聯網溝通，以便定出一致做法。

王珮的父親王師指出，女兒打了4口「止血針」後，傷勢已稍為好轉，明日可施手術。洋名Portia的王珮雖然未能睜眼，但父母在她耳邊談話時，她已能點頭示意，當母親捉住她的手，她更舉出招牌的「V」字手勢，顯出頑強生命力。王母指女兒盆骨及肋骨碎裂，下肢疑被車輪輾過而重傷，仍未脫離危險期。

父斥政策僵化恐致失救

談及「先收錢、後救人」事件，王父認為這是政府政策僵化所致，院方醫護必須執行。他指當時院方未有說明必須付款才用藥，「當時女兒好危急，聽到有特效藥可救命，為了救女兒，多多錢我都肯畀！」昨晨有護士向他們取回購藥單，並說「唔好意思」致歉。

王父認為，女兒是遇到嚴重車禍而入院，「買了藥後就覺得有問題，我個女係撞車入院，救人時唔應該講錢，過後亦唔可以收錢」。他表示，當時無大量現金，只好問「可唔可以碌卡」，然後即時付款，「若其他人無錢畀，會唔會見死不救？」

他讚揚伊利沙伯醫院醫護人員盡力為女兒施救，「我明白不是醫護要收錢，是政府（醫管局）政策有問題，窒礙救援，要檢討，唔希望有人會無錢失救」。

車禍中仍有4名傷者留醫，其中，王珮的好友周潔玲（25歲）情况嚴重，王母指周是印尼華僑，其母已趕返港。周昨日已清醒，因全身疼痛而情緒不穩，兩人仍未知好友李綺霞（25歲）已身亡，旁人亦無告知，以免她們受刺激。另一名33歲姓黎女傷者情况穩定。

肇禍的34歲司機陳╳超仍留醫，情况滿意，他涉嫌危險駕駛導致他人死亡被捕，明日返署報到。王母昨日痛斥司機害死兩條人命，「一個人連累那麼多家庭，我得一粒女，而家點算？」

Lik

Is there anything the HK government won't make you 怒火中燒 ar....?!
Ultraman 發表於 2009-6-15 01:11

08年年尾果陣先至啱啱爆原明愛門口死人事件，點知家陣醫管局又再爆單咁嘅臭屎。一模一樣嘅官僚思想同政策僵化，唔同嘅係，可幸今次事件並無做成人命損失。

對於你呢一條問題，阿力只能夠話：大佬，你估小弟好想成日扯火㗎？但對住一個咁賤格、咁無人性、咁無良、咁無恥，但又偏偏咁無能嘅政府，當佢日日不停咁響度爆屎渠，而且仲要鑊鑊新鮮鑊鑊甘嘅時候，你除咗小七佢之外仲可以做啲乜？！

-力

p.s. 特然諗起，響香港嘅網友，你可以做嘅，就係響七一上街、去維園，用身體、用對腳話俾呢個曾不該同特衰政府聽，你對佢地有幾不滿，又對佢地有幾憤怒！

mcjohnjohn

08年年尾果陣先至啱啱爆原明愛門口死人事件，點知家陣醫管局又再爆單咁嘅臭屎。一模一樣嘅官僚思想同政策僵化，唔同嘅係，可幸今次事件並無做成人命損失。

對於你呢一條問題，阿力只能夠話：大佬，你估小弟好想成日扯火㗎？但對住一個咁賤格、咁無人性、咁無良、咁無恥，但又偏偏咁無能嘅政府，當佢日日不停咁響度爆屎渠，而且仲要鑊鑊新鮮鑊鑊甘嘅時候，你除咗小七佢之外仲可以做啲乜？！

-力
Lik 發表於 2009-6-15 17:43

你而家乜都講到關哂政府事咁樣, 你想唔怒火中燒都幾難啦.
小弟覺得, 呢個case 最大問題係果個醫院law. 就算係要收錢, 都救左人先, 之後先去追數啦.

唉, 力兄, 你真係千祈唔好返香港. 小弟怕你見到地面有一篤啖, 就會覺得香港政府o係衛生方面做得唔好, 又要怒火中燒了... 怒火中燒得太多, 對身體真係唔好架.

peter236

你而家乜都講到關哂政府事咁樣, 你想唔怒火中燒都幾難啦.
小弟覺得, 呢個case 最大問題係果個醫院law. 就算係要收錢, 都救左人先, 之後先去追數啦.

唉, 力兄, 你真係千祈唔好返香港. 小弟怕你見到地面有一篤啖, 就 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2009-6-15 02:54

Lik is like that, he puts the blame on the HK government every time. For example, the Asian financial crisis, Lik put all the blame on uncle Tung, when it was the British government that mismanaged the HK economy before 1997.

mcjohnjohn

Lik is like that, he puts the blame on the HK government every time. For example, the Asian financial crisis, Lik put all the blame on uncle Tung, when it was the British government that mismanaged t ...
peter236 發表於 2009-6-15 17:58

力兄唔係咁既人! 佢對事唔對人架~

BiscottiGelato

A lot better than Canada ga la. Authority apologize and refunded/responded within 24 hours.... For this to happen in Canada you must be dreaming... If Lik is so vocal about stuff, I think he should spend more of his effort on our Canadian government. I mean, HK is already light years ahead of Canada in terms of accountability....

Maybe getting those 4 RCMP officiers to stop working around legal loop holes, come out apologize and accept consequences, and then provoke a accountability reform to weed out all these Police/Custom officer 'power trips' would be a very good use of Lik's polictical will-power...

2 incidents that pisses me off, just from listening to half hour of News 1130 this morning...
http://www.montrealgazette.com/T ... /1695269/story.html
http://www.google.com/hostednews ... p9GNR1NMTkj504bleUw

shutterbug

I also think that this isn't too bad, at least they admitted the problem and tried to correct it.

Lik

The Dziekanski incident is extremely infuriating, but at least a public inquiry has been launched even though internal investigation found the officers to be free of criminal charges. I look forward to Judge Braidwood's report this coming fall:

http://news1130.com/more.jsp?content=20090615_120921_7408

The Braidwood Inquiry into the death of Robert Dziekanski will be allowed to make findings of misconduct against the four RCMP officers involved, according to a BC Supreme Court ruling today.  Commissioner Thomas Braidwood had warned the officers he would consider allegations that the officers acted improperly and then lied to cover up their actions.

As to the Montreal incident, I say it was an unfortunate mistake, but from the news article, at least it seems like protocol and procedure has been followed, and it was a verification against a known criminal. Compare that to the protesters at 利東街 last year (?). University students were strip searched and humiliated (a guy being asked by the SAR Gung On to lift up his penis to show the Gung On that he wasn't hiding anything in his crotch area, and there being a male sergeant immediately outside the room where the girl was stripped searched -- I think the girl might have been asked to go into some humiliating poses during the search as well, but I don't remember it too clearly cuz it has been a while). And what happened out of this? The HK SAR inquiry found no faults, and that was the end of it despite people and 何秀蘭 bxtching about it.

-Lik

Ultraman

At least this time they apologized and will refund. What do you want for more?

Lik

From a different article:

http://inews.mingpao.com/htm/inews/20090614/gb71948c.htm

蘇利民：救人為先 (19:58)

醫院管理局行政總裁蘇利民稱，醫管局的收費原則是在性命攸關的危急情況下，不應向本港病人收取藥費。

旺角前晚車禍重傷的王珮因為一度未能止血，家人遂同意伊利沙伯醫院支付二萬多元自購止血針藥。蘇利民就此稱，希望藉此向市民保證，醫管局首要任務是救治病人及傷者的生命，不論其財政狀況。醫管局的收費原則是在性命攸關的危急情況下，醫院不應向本港病人收取所需藥物的費用，醫管局在制訂和檢討藥物名冊時一向都緊守這原則。

他又稱，昨日的事件反映現存制度的灰色地帶。有關藥物（Novo Seven）是註冊用於治療血友病人的止血藥，屬於專用藥物類別，而非列入為通用藥物名冊，供一般病人使用。雖然藥廠只建議有關藥物用於血友病人，伊利沙伯醫院醫生認為按病人當時的情況，有關藥物（Novo Seven）有助治理該傷者失血過多的情況。事件反映現行系統在處理病人性命攸關的危急情況下需要進一步改善的地方，及以臨床實證支持醫生作出專業判斷。醫管局會檢討該藥物在處理血友病以外的醫學實證及就使用方法提出統一做法的建議。

聲明稱，醫管局會盡快檢討現行情況和做法，並訂定一套機制，確保病人或傷者在性命危殆的緊急情況下，一定獲得有助治療的藥物，而毋須額外付費，以貫徹醫管局救治生命的原則。