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原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-6 22:53 發表
Thousands and thousands of Christians throughout history feel more joy, peace and hope after they believed.  Are all of these false witnesses?


oh really
so which god that the Crusade believe?
and 那個神讓他立國的政府﹐現在用些"那渣"武器去對付平民的軍隊﹐他們是信那個神呀?
難道你們的所謂"和平的夢想"就是滅掉所有非信徒嗎?

我常聽說believers用神讓他們立國來說明聖經的真確與神的偉大
難道現在是神讓他們屠殺異見者?

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I do respect the so called "mature Christian" and I have friend that are "christian" that they dun annoy me.

For some reasons, Canada Christian are so aggressive to a point that really annoy others.  Where Christians in HK are more "religion" friendly."..

At least, the Christian I know from HK, they won't point at other "god" and tell your parent "that is an evil god".............

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原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-6 21:53 發表

Both science and religion, both never came up with solid physical evidences about how the world came about, so who will you believe or you won't believe either?  In this case, how superior is the sci ...


It's the final time I am going to say this. I don't blindly 'believe' when it comes to finding out about the world around us. I will just say that in terms of genesis theories, the Big Bang theory is just another theory, along with a few other theory that the scientific community is advertising. They definately sounds pretty interesting, and all of them sounds like they are possible~ Who knows how the universe really came about? Why should I be concerned about it?
The theory of evolution seems pretty good in explaining how life came to it's shape as it is today, despite that there are still holes in the theory. Tho, I just don't see any other theory that explain things as well as this theory. But again, who knows how living things as it is today really came about?

What I really feel strongly for (maybe not so strong that I'll donate them money or anything LOL), is that I appreciate the scientists who actively try to find answers, or improve the accuracy and detail of the answers to these questions. On the flip side, I condemn entities that are trying to undermine these scientific efforts. Spreading propaganda of some relatively weakly supported theory as 'the one and only truth', in my opinion, is also one of the ways that undermines Scientific discovery.

As for the peace/joy/hope that many Christian, and believer in other religions find (not only Christian claims that they find peace/joy/hope, etc from their religions, you know?)... I am not denying the role of religion in the society (see post #140 for that). On the flip side again, I also see the possible danger that religions can bring to the society (see post #30 for that).

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BTW, if most Christian are like McJohnJohn, I think there will be less anti-Christian.

It is very pleasant to read his comments about god in this thread.
Because I don't feel that he is "forcing" me to believe it.

I like his point about as long as one religion is good (teaching other to do good deed), there is no problem.

and that's what I believe.

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And one more point for why there are so many Anti-Christian out there is :

(Dun ask me which author, I dun remember anymore)

That one of the ACADEMIC writer dare to say the following:

The reason why Europe was more advance than China/Asia because they believe in God, that's why they were more develped and more advance than China and Asia........

AND YES, it was from one of the Economic Academic Writing........
Even Caucasian students  were completely speechless....

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BG, you say you don't blindly believe but for some reason you believe how a computer works internally without really knowing how it works.  If nobody tells you how it works, isn't that blindly believe?  You contradict yourself.

peace/joy/hope/etc is just a few attributes, there are more.  If you think there's another religion that provides you the same thing, can you name me a few?

[ 本帖最後由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-7 00:02 編輯 ]

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原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-6 23:24 發表


oh really
so which god that the Crusade believe?
and 那個神讓他立國的政府﹐現在用些"那渣"武器去對付平民的軍隊﹐他們是信那個神呀?
難道你們的所謂"和平的夢想"就是滅掉所有非信徒嗎?

我常聽說believers用神讓 ...

what you believe is one thing...how you act in accordance to your believe is another...I believe if they act in accordance to the Bible, I don't think there will be Crusade.

moreover, politics are closely tied with religion in the middle east

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原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-7 14:24 發表
oh really
so which god that the Crusade believe?
and 那個神讓他立國的政府﹐現在用些"那渣"武器去對付平民的軍隊﹐他們是信那個神呀?
難道你們的所謂"和平的夢想"就是滅掉所有非信徒嗎?

我常聽說believers用神讓他們立國來說明聖經的真確與神的偉大
難道現在是神讓他們屠殺異見者?


我覺得, 神正在哭泣著...
神可以做什麼? 再次派使者拯救人類?
人類要自我反省, 下下靠神係唔work既.
我都唔信晚晚祈禱, 就可以世界和平law.

神讓他們立國來說明聖經的真確與神的偉大? 我未聽過... 同你講果個一定在吹水. 神既國, 並唔係一個國家, 係愛.
心中有愛, 神就在你們當中.

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原帖由 Nam 於 2009-1-6 23:50 發表
And one more point for why there are so many Anti-Christian out there is :

(Dun ask me which author, I dun remember anymore)

That one of the ACADEMIC writer dare to say the following:

The reason w ...

I think you might want to read his entire writing before you comment on his works because it's not fair to him judging by a couple of sentences.

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原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-7 00:01 發表

I think you might want to read his entire writing before you comment on his works because it's not fair to him judging by a couple of sentences.


You think I skipped all other sentences in his book and pinpoint this statement?
........ if so, I must be a very smart student........................

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