Lik

LOL
it happens everywhere in the world
we all again HST, but do we get a chance and power to oppose it?
chunsh 發表於 2010-1-15 16:32

Not the same because public outcry and demonstrations against the HST aren't even remotely close to the same level as the anti-express rail activities in Hong Kong. When the NDP organized a public rally against the tax, only ~200 people showed up at the convention center. Had 4000+ (if not far more) people camped out and demonstrated against the HST at the Legislature office in Victoria, Gordie Liberal is gonna scrap the HST plans so fast you wouldn't even know it.

This is the primary difference between an entirely elected legislative assembly, and one where 1/2 of the members were practically appointed by the government and pro-establishment side.

To hell with functional constituencies!!!

-Lik

peter236

LOL
it happens everywhere in the world
we all again HST, but do we get a chance and power to oppose it?
chunsh 發表於 2010-1-15 17:32

Here in Canada, no matter which party you elect, they still hike the tax rates in one form or another. So there is no need to protest.
In Hong Kong, they cannot elect the government, so they blame everything on the government. What they are unaware of is that, even if there are democratic elections, it is not going to change anything, like in other democratic countries.

ricrick

LOL
it happens everywhere in the world
we all again HST, but do we get a chance and power to oppose it?
chunsh 發表於 2010-1-15 17:32

加拿大福利國家，重稅是難免，但市民都相信錢是會再反係市民身上
但中國的中央集權，用的是國家資源，受惠的是權貴高幹子弟自己友，平民得到什麼？

peter236

加拿大福利國家，重稅是難免，但市民都相信錢是會再反係市民身上
但中國的中央集權，用的是國家資源，受惠的是權貴高幹子弟自己友，平民得到什麼？ ...
ricrick 發表於 2010-1-15 18:07

Like new railways and subways etc, things that people can use every day.

MoiRhapsody

再講一次:
高鐵唔係日常交通工具，
只係有商務、旅遊會用，
係奢侈品，
大陸如是，
放眼世界如是。
只有一條來回大阪東京既高鐵係唔蝕。
其他高鐵，全部都係勁蝕。
如果一條鐵路唔停站直上廣州，冇問題，好，起啦。
不過人地深圳已經有兩個站，近香港多D既福田站仲要係夾硬加多個出黎，你就知道：
人地其實冇預你香港玩，
因為過關已經係大問題，用US custom做例子唔正確。做唔到一地兩檢，要係邊境落車再過關，呢個根本問題仲係「內部研究」階段就夠膽攞錢？？
所以呢家係特區政府自己獻身要配合「廣深鐵路」。停多兩個站，又要落車過關再上車，根本唔可以叫「express」!!!如果唔係express,就唔值669億!

ricrick

一個字，膠

peter236

再講一次:
高鐵唔係日常交通工具，
只係有商務、旅遊會用，
係奢侈品，
大陸如是，
放眼世界如是。
只有一條來回大阪東京既高鐵係唔蝕。
其他高鐵，全部都係勁蝕。
如果一條鐵路唔停站直上廣州，冇問題，好，起啦。
...
MoiRhapsody 發表於 2010-1-15 18:56

Well, China has 10 times Japan's population. The idea of building any subway or highspeed railway is not for making money. It is a public service for reducing the need of driving cars and for promoting economic growth. If you don't want to lose money, then governments should not be building public schools or libraries.
Some people think it is a waste of money just because it is "highspeed", but still many countries in Europe are building in order to promote economic growth. The reduction of pollution from car trips is already a big return to the society.
Highspeed railway in China is going to reduce the need for domestic flights as train travel is always cheaper than air travel.

somewhereintime

train travel is always cheaper than air travel
Really???
Try take the Rocky Mountaineer to Calgary,CAD $1,600 ONE WAY,
CAD$4,500 to Halifax.
I traveled once at half price, still $800 + Gratuity and Tax,
while I took West Jet return for $59

sheep

Well, China has 10 times Japan's population. The idea of building any subway or highspeed railway is not for making money. It is a public service for reducing the need of driving cars and for promoti ...
peter236 發表於 2010-1-15 19:04

你叫深圳阿嬸種十斤菜
然後坐高鐵上去北京賣
大聲話 新鮮摘深圳白菜好靚呀
八蚊斤 做水餃 一流呀 買啦 買啦

peter236

train travel is always cheaper than air travel
Really???
Try take the Rocky Mountaineer to Calgary,CAD $1,600 ONE WAY,
CAD$4,500 to Halifax.
I traveled once at half price, still $800 + Gratuity and Ta ...
somewhereintime 發表於 2010-1-15 19:14

Highspeed train from Beijing to Tianjin is cheaper than plane.
Highspeed train from Wuhan to Guangzhou is cheaper than plane.

Your Rocky Mountaineer to Calgary is just a low capacity tour train, which operates during selected days during the summer, LOL.

Someone said you like to BS, now I know why.