mcjohnjohn

原帖由 ACC-HE 於 2009-2-11 10:32 發表
Hum... I guess we need to truly understand the meaning and spirit of multiculturalism.

There's nothing wrong with speaking/typing English, or Chinese, or whatever language we like, as long as we trea ...

spirit of multiculturalism, I strongly agree with it.
I think it is okay to speak Chinese, Japanese, Spanish, German in Canada. Why not?
Why do I need to go home if I don't like to speak English is a specific forum? It doesn't make any sense.

fibbi

A couple of your points:
" When I am surprised I don't say GEEZ. I say WAH. I have tried to brainwash myself to fit into their culture. But I don't like Betty Boop or Winnie the Pooh. I like Ding Dong. And I know Ding Dong."
I don't see why you have to brainwash yourself to fit in the mainstream culture. You don't have to enjoy hockey game. You can still continue to like Ding Dong and buy Ding Dong comic here. There is nothing wrong that if you don't enjoy hockey. Like I still don't know the rules of hockey game and I don't follow the news etc. I see nothing wrong about that.

"I don't play hockey. I play ping pong."
There are a few ping pong clubs around and you can still play your ping pong any time. So there is no problem?

"So how am I going to explain all these. That white people in Richmond has become a minority group. WELL. I don't see any Chinese culture going around Richmond RCMP. They don't eat dim sum and Chinese tea. Only I drink donut and coffee. There is a Chinese version of O Canada. more like a translation. somewhere on the web."
Hm...it's interesting that why you would like to change others preference of food? Nothing wrong for me to like dimsum and at the same time nothign wrong for RCMP to like donuts. The most important thing is we respect each other's choice and we have a choice, we have tons of selection of restaurants  for dimsum

"Being an immigrant has to admit I myself and family somehow believe our country / place of origin is not as good. All my memories / knowledge associated with my birth place and people has a negative denotation. if there is anything I can do about it, it will be:"
I would like to ask why you would think that way? I came to live in Canada doesn't mean HK is really bad. It's my family's choice. I choose to stay here because I got a job, I enjoy the living environment here. Doesn't mean HK is bad wor. If I prefer orange to yellow, doesn't mean yellow is bad. It's a matter of choice, personal preference.

"Consider it is their duty to handle you, they will not leave you alone.
But then one of them is going to ask: do you speak English?
And if I ever had the guts to reply: I do speak English. Do you speak Chinese?"
Hm...I believe everything (or most) is driven by demand and supply. Now you see airport has lots of chinese sign, chinese announcement. Some government publication has Chinese translation too. If we have big enough community (like 90% ?) we may see more Chinese gov't service la right? Richmond has large number of Chinese population but it's just like more than half?

habitrailspace

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sick man of asia

RayRay

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-10 19:04 發表
Agreed.  This is so much better than some people typing chinese, speaking chinese to each other--hiding in a hole in Canada.

Why are they in Canada if they only want to speak Chinese to each other?   ...

I use (read and write) whatever language benefit to me by the time I have to use.
Of course, I do not mine other ppl make their own best decision to use whatever language they can use.

In Singapore and Malaysia most young Chinese can (read and write) Chinese and English; understand by listening of Malay. Please tell me "where they should go ???????"

Knowing a language, is a "good living tool" of himself or herself and not a excuse kicked by "mind set"

jake123

What's the problem w/ speaking chinese to chinese?

I've never understood the pscyhology of these toppy discussions.

mucc1928

Why cannot we speak Chinese to chinese people?  Of course if there are a white dude besides then yes I will speak English, just incase he would have hard feeling.  .

This is Canada, multi-culturalism.  IF you want everyone to speak English, then dont' come and go to USA or go home.

ricrick

Wahahahaha.. there is only ONE guy on the earth who come to Chinese forum and ask ppl to speak English

Toppy toy, you think we are idiots? but the good think is that you finally don't copy and paste

Nam

原帖由 Toppy 於 2009-2-10 19:24 發表



I think this guy says it best:

If you Dont Like It Go Home You Asked to come here we did not ask you.

http://www.loyaukee.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6315

Sometimes, Toppy.  I really get lost with your point.
You started post that Canada is a place of racism.  
I assumed that you are a Chinese, then why you are discriminating us typing Chinese here.


And please don't use larger font because that does not make you better.
That's very rude.

Especially, I'm not offending you as well.
I'm just pointing out my POV in a very calm mood.

OK, white guy said so.  OK, there are discrimination within white guy.
Is it all white guys are like that? I highly doubt it. At least, fro my experience, not all Caucasian are like that. In fact, some of them are very interested in Chinese culture.  Back when I was in a small town, an elderly gentleman always ask my friend to burn him Chinese Pop music.  And try to learn how to speak Cantonese from her parents.

When I was working in a large logistic company in downtown, a Caucasian wrote something in e-mail by "mistake" to my Chinese co-worker.

Yellow Dog,

Is the cargo ready for pickup?

My Caucasian co-worker got so upset about this e-mail and her face was red.
She rushed into the CS Manager room and told him (He is an Indian) that he has to take immediate action about this e-mail. The whole office was very upset by this incident and our office was mixture of all sort of races.  European, HK, TW, Indian, Japanese, UK, French, Indonesia.  I'm not sure what sort of Caucasian you have been dealing with for the past years.  I'm fully aware there are racists out there but there are also Caucasian that respect different culture.  My General Manager who was also a Caucasian apologized to my Chinese co-worker and he should never tolerant such thing happen to his staff.

We google it, and she is lucky that there is actually a trucking company call Yellow Dog.

By saying that, I'm not denying there is no discrimination exist.
Come on, we, Chinese are somehow discriminating others by calling people "ar chai" or "gwai lo" too.

Just don't be so negative.