BiscottiGelato

Honestly, there is no point to continue replying to this post. The thread is not even a logical discussion anymore. It is just emotionally charged filled with personal attacks and accusation on both sides. Particularly, as I have stated before, people that are religious have a tendancy to be emotionally influenced, such that the ability to think logically is highly impaired. Would you bother to try to talk logic with someone who have just lost a loved one? They are highly emotional and their ability to reason is greatly discounted. The difference is that some people settle down after traumatic events and come to their senses. On the other hand, religious influence can last a life time. When a person cannot reason logically by putting their emotion aside, rational discussion simply cannot occur. aka, all BS.

Not interested in replying to a thread where conversations are emotionally charged instead of logically formed. I just hope that the people that have conducted personal attacks to admit their mistake. I'd expect at least that especially when Christians are supposed to be held at a much 'higher moral standard'.

[ 本帖最後由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-1-7 20:07 編輯 ]

chunsh

原帖由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-7 19:45 發表

very profound finding!  how did you come up with that?  LOL

我地用緊比喻法wor
你唔係跟唔到呀嗎?
if so, please refer back to #242

chunsh

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-7 20:04 發表


咁又係麻煩D既. 唔信就唔信架啦, 仲乜要逼人去信woh, 好煩架~
至於defending personal values, o係呢度有乜好defend 丫, 大家都想講下自己既POV之麻, 討論下之麻~ ...

another minor misunderstanding, about the "defending personal values", I am talking about the believers that I have encountered in the real life. One good thing happen

不過近來 many believers 好像沒那麼aggressive了﹐至少表面上如此。最多都只是以後少和我往來。
這樣很好﹐個人價值不同﹐何必勉強呢

shutterbug

原帖由 BiscottiGelato 於 2009-1-7 20:55 發表


I feel offended, isn't that sufficient to demand an apology? You brought my mom and dad on the table and making ridiculous claims about them. Isn't that more than offensive? I don't see why that was ...

Just because you feel offended is not sufficient to demand an apology my friend.  You must have good grounds.  What kind of ridiculous claims did I make about your parents?  I did not make fun of your parents at all.

It's funny/ironic how you put so much emotion into this discussion yourself.  Your parents' example was just a made up example/analogy to prove that such a simple thing as that you cannot 100% confirm by science.  Did I say you're not your parents' son?  How is this an offense/attack?  You need to get your mind clear.  If you can't take an example/analogy I guess you shouldn't reply in this thread at all.

Now I can go around and say I feel offended because people are attacking my heavenly father, put him on the table, and start requesting people to apologize?    I'm afraid the world doesn't work like that...

Don't get mixed up, this is nothing about moral standard but I can say you're falsely accusing me.

[ 本帖最後由 shutterbug 於 2009-1-7 21:54 編輯 ]

chunsh

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2009-1-7 16:29 發表
個人經驗：
華人對信仰好似比其他人狂熱，
並且易於偏執。

in some cases, this is so god-damned true, no matter what religion

shutterbug

原帖由 chunsh 於 2009-1-7 21:53 發表


in some cases, this is so god-damned true, no matter what religion

Really?  How about the terrorists?  Are they Muslims?

katamari

原帖由 MoiRhapsody 於 2009-1-7 16:22 發表

優越主意。
就係呢種迫人食自己認為‘better beef'既思維害死好多人。
你連人地隻雞都未聞過就話人地隻雞差唔好食又臭，
仲話唔食你塊牛扒就一定肚痾!
relax,我都未食你就同我擔心定痾出黎係點？？
賣多塊牛扒你係咪有傭 ...

SB的better beef主義咪即係中左第六點？！？！

6）自命屬靈、排斥異己
基督徒最討厭的地方就是他們那種自高自大，自命為屬靈一族，以致覺得自己便是唯一得救的一群，自以為只有他們才獲得了最後真理，基督徒便是高人一等似的，從而鄙視其他學問知識，不信的就是“屬世者”，不配他們這些“屬靈人”，在婚姻上便是“信與不信原不相配”。

chunsh

原帖由 katamari 於 2009-1-7 22:18 發表


SB的better beef主義咪即係中左第六點？！？！

6）自命屬靈、排斥異己
基督徒最討厭的地方就是他們那種自高自大，自命為屬靈一族，以致覺得自己便是唯一得救的一群，自以為只有他們才獲得了最後真理，基督徒便是高人一等似的，從而鄙 ...

我覺得中o西
不過﹐惟我獨尊不是基督徒獨有﹐此乃人之天性。

[ 本帖最後由 chunsh 於 2009-1-7 22:30 編輯 ]

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-7 17:32 發表


Huh? Every human being could have different view, and so many peeple think of this, another reason why people don't want to be human being?....

求同存異呀, 大哥...

You lost your mind? Did you forget what issue we've been talking about? Of course, every different man could have different POV and etc. But haven't we keep talking about certain religion? Is that particular religion has no rules/teaching for believers to follow at all? If so, how come the meaning of those rules/teaching can be so widely various? Then how can believer follow, and which rule(s)/teaching(s) can be followed directly and which one(s) up to every personal standard/judgment?

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-7 17:35 發表


Too bad that I don't think this way. Are you sure? Seems that you are wrong this time.

What do you think the different between to donate money from winning a lottery and money from a robbery? And which (or both) case would be appreciated by God and which wouldn't?