Look4chrisng

回復 17# 快樂牛郎


There is a lax attitude on tax compliance among Canadian, until they are in trouble with the CRA.

Americans are way more careful on taxes in general, even criminals file tax returns carefully.  Thanks for their big boss Al Capone.

FiChai

Both way of calculating HST could be correct, depending of the type of coupon.

Reimbursable coupons ...
Look4chrisng 發表於 2011-12-2 11:28

Yes, that's what I mentioned above too. Only if the seller/vendor eats the difference of the cost, and report the whole revenue to the city/government, then the tax should be calculated on the original full amount. However, the buyer/customer still only needs to pay for the discounted portion, it's the seller/vendor to pay for the rest part, then submit to the city in full. Customer has no responsibility to pay for the "unseen" part.

Look4chrisng

回復 22# FiChai


Fichai:  If you go to buy a new canon 5D marked II and pay with a collectible baseball card.  How do you CRA calculate HST?  

Plus you don't know how Groupon pays the vendor.  Whatever it is, the value vendor receives has to be higher than the face value of the groupon. (I reckon the vendor receives the face value of the Groupon AND some marketing services.  So $50 group on could be $55 or whatever CRA deems.

The vendors/groupon should can go to court to agree.  But not everyone wants the trouble, nor the vendor cares as HST is always wash for them anyway.

快樂牛郎

Whatever it is, the value vendor receives has to be higher than the face value of the groupon.

Groupon is a charity service?

blowfish

Groupon is a charity service?

Are u kidding? Is not, is going for IPO pretty soon.

Look4chrisng

Groupon is a charity service?
快樂牛郎 發表於 2011-12-3 07:55

    So the vendor will be reimbursed for something less the $50 out of the deal, or vendors pay an up front fee to Groupon.  Don't know where this charity thing coming from.

FiChai

Again:
1. original price was $100, with coupon you only need to pay $10. Total you need to pay should be $10 + $12 (tax on the original $100)= $22
2. original price was $100, with coupon you only need to pay $10. Total you need to pay should be $10 + $1.2 (tax on the coupon price $10) = $11.2

To be honest to yourself, as a customer, which is making more sense to you?

快樂牛郎

So the vendor will be reimbursed for something less the $50 out of the deal, or vendors pay a ...
Look4chrisng 發表於 2012/1/6 21:29

"Plus you don't know how Groupon pays the vendor.  Whatever it is, the value vendor receives has to be higher than the face value of the groupon."

The vendor gets paid 50% of the money you pay to groupon. So a $25 for $50 groupon gives the vendor $12.50.

Look4chrisng

回復 27# FiChai


As a business owner, how do you like CRA send you a bill for $10.08 plus interest and penalty when you are audited?  GST People are not funny, they are know to put businesses out of business.

Avalon Dairy here in vancouver was sued for back taxes for GST on Bottle deposits.  It nearly put them out of business.

FiChai

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As a business owner, how do you like CRA send you a bill for $10.08 plus interest an ...
Look4chrisng 發表於 2012-1-7 21:39

You didn't answer my question directly, as a customer's role.