intax

原帖由 Traum 於 2008-4-14 22:56 發表

Dude, read what your argument is then -- it has absolutely nothing to do with eating cats and dogs. Rather, you are protesting about the way the animals are treated before they are slaughtered.

If t ...

ok ok, let me narrow this down, im only trying to answer the question u previously posted.

As long as the raising and slaughtering processes are reasonable, what is the difference?

the problem is that raising and slaughtering methods are inhumane, so what would happen if the they legalized dog meat? more and more dogs will be killed. Have u not seen the dogs' living conditions and methods of slaughter by hanging? not only hanging is done but there are more unimaginable inhumane methods of killing these dogs. like boiling them alive. is that a painless or reasonable method of killing? NO

SUMMARY

OK
Raising method - not reasonable (they are fed decayed bread and kitchen waste(餿水), several dogs fenced in 1 small area and the "farmers" do not clean their wastes)

Slaughtering Method - hanging to death. (u can argue its a painless method). what about other unimaginable killing methods? boiling alive in water?

Currently 2 million dogs are killed every year.

Cause - probably 10 million dogs will be treateed like that in the above few statements.

im sure that fully answers ur previous question

are u chinese? can u actually read what it says on the article? try spending 10 minutes reading it before talking to me

chunsh

原帖由 daimo 於 2008-4-14 23:50 發表
簡單.  

貓和狗都可以和人類建立信任, 友誼和感情.  雞鴨鵝鱼虾蟹牛羊可以嗎? 至少我感受不到.  猪可以嗎? 或者得.  但我只在電影中見過.  好似前排有人問, 點解唔可憐埋d沅熊, 我只可以說, 我冇本事同佢地交朋友.  ...

你有問過的貓同狗(用佢地明白既語言)佢地真係當你朋友?
有野俾佢地食o米朋友o羅
豬既智商都唔差﹐有的人仲養豬做pets, 係米又要戒食豬?
我細過養過雞仔﹐佢地唔知點解都成日痴/跟住我先安樂﹐o甘證明家禽都有感情﹐
係米又要戒食雞?
用腦想o下﹐如果個個人都轉食非狗/貓animal
要殺幾多其他animal先夠個 meat market?

我覺得﹐要麼 就mud野 meats 都唔好食﹐要麼就唔好o甘唔公平﹐見o的貓貓狗狗懂
搖"hud" 憐就扮人道

家陣豬牛羊海鮮樣"須"有罪架?

makten

Wow...I have no idea we have members that are this hostile here...
While the person who started this post had a good intention of raising our awareness of slaughtering dogs and eating them...the way he/she brought it out was way too extreme...You can't just come in and start lashing out at people who don't agree with you...especially when you're being extremely disrespectful to the members...

As a dog lover myself, I can't stand people eating dogs....but what can I say...we're just saying we should not eat dogs and cats because we live in a society that regards dogs and cats only as pets and not an animal for us to consume...Unless we grew up in Korean cultures or cultures that supports eating these animals, i don't think we have the rights to force people to stop consuming them, simply because we don't stand on the same ground...
This is just like how middle east are used to having male being the superior and causes discrimination against women, this is caused by their religion and culture...we can't really do anything about it even though we see this kinda stuff as a problem...

Oh yeah...I've had horse meat and venison before...I'm not proud of it and to be honest I thought that wasn't a good idea to have tried it too...but that pretty much puts me on the same spot as dog eaters (to horse lovers maybe)...I think this kinda issue is really affected by what perspective you use...

[ 本帖最後由 makten 於 2008-4-15 00:26 編輯 ]

intax

原帖由 makten 於 2008-4-15 00:21 發表
Wow...I have no idea we have members that are this hostile here...
While the person who started this post had a good intention of raising our awareness of slaughtering dogs and eating them...the way h ...

would u say that its a culture for eating dogs. just because they almost starved to death during the korean war, thus they had to kill their family pet in order to survive, does not make it a culture. that is clearly their excuse for eating dogs, not a culture

Yet, they talk about eating dogs will give more male virility, but there are no scientific records of it.

chunsh

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-15 00:35 發表


would u say that its a culture for eating dogs. just because they almost starved to death during the korean war, thus they had to kill their family pet in order to survive, does not make it a cultur ...

挑起戰爭o米係呢種人羅
係o甘將自己既value壓落其他人度

你有本事既話, u can talk to the presidents of N and S Korea and try to convince them not to eat dogs

我自己唔會食貓狗﹐因為覺得殘忍同dirty
但我唔食係我既事﹐無端端要人地成個民族就你班外國人﹐ 跟本就講唔通

[ 本帖最後由 chunsh 於 2008-4-15 00:44 編輯 ]

intax

ok let me put it in another perspective

if u have realised where SARS originated from, u should understand it was from civet cats that were killed and eaten in Guangdong. This has being officially stated by scientific experiments and analysing, not a bullshlt i'm trying to make up. So what is the chances of another big spread of viruses from dogs (not to mention 狂吠病 already exists in the eastern world) that are eaten in Korea. VERY HIGH.

so wouldn't eating these dogs affect the whole world? not just for the dog lovers but also for, if another big spread of virus, should annihilate a few several thousands of innocent people.

Ultraman

I said I don't get it because all the answers are just ridiculous!
Why there is an excuse to eat cat and dog, because they may get a chance to feel no mercy on human and hurt us? Then why human eat pig and rabbit, I never see they do anything harming us?!
Why need to compare human to other animals? Why if other animals may/will hurt or eat us and so we can have the right to eat them first? Animals don't have a human brain to think of all these, but why human want to think like animals? If there is no side effect, human can eat human? Don't talk about law, eating cat and dog is illegal in many countries but still legal in some countries. So that means if eating human becomes legal in one country, people would accept that and more and more countries would set it legal?
Human just being selfish, they have different excuse to do things. That's all!

Ultraman

"無端端要人地成個民族就你班外國人﹐ 跟本就講唔通"
Well, then why 藏獨 issue a matter of other countries, even affecting Olympic?

katamari

原帖由 chunsh 於 2008-4-15 00:14 發表



你有問過的貓同狗(用佢地明白既語言)佢地真係當你朋友?
有野俾佢地食o米朋友o羅
豬既智商都唔差﹐有的人仲養豬做pets, 係米又要戒食豬?
我細過養過雞仔﹐佢地唔知點解都成日痴/跟住我先安樂﹐o甘證明家禽都有感情﹐
係米 ...

你有問過的貓同狗()佢地真係當你朋友? 有野俾佢地食o米朋友o羅你有用佢地明白既語言talk過佢地答你？
豬既智商都唔差﹐有的人仲養豬做pets, 係米又要戒食豬? 應該呀
我細過養過雞仔﹐佢地唔知點解都成日痴/跟住我先安樂﹐o甘證明家禽都有感情﹐
係米又要戒食雞?你應該呀
用腦想o下﹐如果個個人都轉食非狗/貓animal
要殺幾多其他animal先夠個 meat market? 貓狗肉都唔夠係咪食人肉都要先?

我覺得﹐要麼 就mud野 meats 都唔好食﹐要麼就唔好o甘唔公平﹐見o的貓貓狗狗懂
搖"hud" 憐就扮人道 貓狗冇搖尾乞憐，係呢Ｄ係人既language

makten

原帖由 intax 於 2008-4-15 00:35 發表


would u say that its a culture for eating dogs. just because they almost starved to death during the korean war, thus they had to kill their family pet in order to survive, does not make it a cultur ...

you know...it does make it a culture over a period of time...Please be aware that culture includes BOTH what people think as immoral or moral...
Why do you think the Chinese eat so much animal intestines?  People ate what they could find in order to survive...since they got used to eating it, it became a part of Chinese culture that people eat intestines even after the starvation period was over...
Note that I'm not saying what they are doing is right...I just want to say that we can't always judge what is moral or immoral about another culture...

and seriously...you're becoming quite an extremist on this issue...people can't really discuss the issue with you if you keep on using harsh languages

[ 本帖最後由 makten 於 2008-4-15 03:21 編輯 ]