Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-20 00:03 發表


- Mr. Chan might not be sure if drinking urine can cure his hair problem, but well, just drink and see.
- Christians knows that there is heaven, and they totally believe it.

Nope, your examples are not the same.
- Mr. Chan might not be sure if drinking urine can cure his hair problem, still drink it.
The fact is: he knows what exactly urine is, means he knows what ingredient/content urine contains (you can say in a scientific way), he just can't sure if urine will help his hair problem, but since there is no other better method, just try drinking it and see how it goes.

- Christians "know" that there is heaven?! No, they don't know what exactly heaven is, not even how big it is, where it is, what kind of weather it is... etc, they just heard about it from a book, they haven't see it by themselves. They can't be sure how "good" it is to them, because the book say so, so they just "believe" it.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 一代烈士 於 2009-1-20 16:52 發表
Even Muslim would trying to protect someone whos NOT their own kind.
While the attackers are christian extremist.

Christian talks about love? BS

more like we should exterminate and execute those BS believers!

NOW U FKING UNDERSTAND?

小弟從來都唔否認人性既丑惡, 如果釘我上十字架可以消除閣下既怨氣, 請動手吧.
對不起, 全部都是我的錯, 請原諒愚昧的人, 我願意代他們受罰.

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-20 00:10 發表


你有冇能力令到全世界都充滿愛?
就算全世界都係基督徙都唔得啦.

Well........ is there a chance that the world would become worse if there are only Christians living in it?

一代烈士

你估你係咩水, 彈開啦你, 釘晒你祖宗都未夠代罪

基督教最乞人憎就係作惡多端, 非常之虛偽同卑鄙
之後仲不斷自當清高

如果當年唔係King Henry 8條仆街話要離婚,
都唔會攪到今日咁多煩膠

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-20 16:57 發表

Nope, your examples are not the same.
- Mr. Chan might not be sure if drinking urine can cure his hair problem, still drink it.
The fact is: he knows what exactly urine is, means he knows what ingre ...

每個人既觀點與角度都唔同, 小弟已經講出自己既意見, 你覺得你arm 哂都好, 小弟亦唔會不斷同你磨落去.
你覺得狗有幾多隻腳? 有人話4 隻(普通狗), 有人話2 隻(snoopy), 有人話冇腳(熱狗), 因為佢地心裡面既狗都唔一樣.

Ultraman, 觀點與角度, 你說你對, 你是對, 但只有你是對嗎?

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 一代烈士 於 2009-1-20 17:04 發表
你估你係咩水, 彈開啦你, 釘晒你祖宗都未夠代罪

基督教最乞人憎就係作惡多端, 非常之虛偽同卑鄙
之後仲不斷自當清高

如果當年唔係King Henry 8條仆街話要離婚,
都唔會攪到今日咁多煩膠 ...

小弟一d 都唔清高, 作惡多唔多端就見人見智, 虛偽同卑鄙就睇下同邊個比較.
同烈士兄句句膠前膠後既真性情比起, 小弟絕對甘拜下風.

最後, 小弟唔會彈開, 最多都係閃開而已.

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-20 17:01 發表

Well........ is there a chance that the world would become worse if there are only Christians living in it?

小弟唔排除呢一個機會.
基督徒都有壞人, 相信唔少通緝犯係基督徒.

所以, 小弟真係唔care 人係唔係一定要入教, 我由頭到尾都係想人將愛傳給人, 由身邊既人開始, 慢慢傳開去, 咁樣唔好嗎?

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-20 01:05 發表


每個人既觀點與角度都唔同, 小弟已經講出自己既意見, 你覺得你arm 哂都好, 小弟亦唔會不斷同你磨落去.
你覺得狗有幾多隻腳? 有人話4 隻(普通狗), 有人話2 隻(snoopy), 有人話冇腳(熱狗), 因為佢地心裡面既狗都唔一樣.

Ultraman, 觀點與角度, 你說你對, 你是對, 但只有你是對嗎?

I totally agree, 每個人既觀點與角度都唔同. However, since there is a book called bible, a universal "handbook" in many different languages, shouldn't all believers/followers/Christians have the same (or at least very close) understanding of what it said? There shouldn't be too much different point of view indeed.
At least, as far as I heard about from many Christians, all of them can't be sure what heaven and hell (the heaven and hell mentioned in the bible) do look like. I have totally no problem for them to have doubt on something but deadly believe in it, however, they shouldn't tell people that something they can't be sure in a very solid way, it's like they can guarantee it, but they are not 100% sure. You know what I mean?

Ultraman

原帖由 mcjohnjohn 於 2009-1-20 01:11 發表


小弟唔排除呢一個機會.
基督徒都有壞人, 相信唔少通緝犯係基督徒.

所以, 小弟真係唔care 人係唔係一定要入教, 我由頭到尾都係想人將愛傳給人, 由身邊既人開始, 慢慢傳開去, 咁樣唔好嗎? ...

Of course, this is a very good attitude. But as you said, it doesn't matter whether people are in any of the religions at all, they can still love others. Not because of the teaching of any religion, kids were taught to love others since schooling anyways. People, no matter with or without religious background, they know they should love others, or in other words they shouldn't harm others, this is a very basic thing in mind already. However, people can decide whether they like to love or to harm others up to individual preference.

We can't deny, there are people without any religious background who are loving others. And we also can't deny, there are people with religious background who do a lot of bad things to harm others. So, why believing in a religion so important if we put the heaven & hell issue aside?

mcjohnjohn

原帖由 Ultraman 於 2009-1-20 17:19 發表

I totally agree, 每個人既觀點與角度都唔同. However, since there is a book called bible, a universal "handbook" in many different languages, shouldn't all believers/followers/Christians have the same  ...

Ultraman, 以小弟既認知, 聖經對天堂同地獄既描述係非常抽象.
唔知入面點既樣對於我既講並唔重要, 我知道一定會充滿愛就okay了.
有d 野係唔需要過份了解, 舉個例, 我都唔係非常了解我父母, 佢地好多野我都唔知, 但我都會好好做兒子既本分.
(可能例子舉得唔好, 但唔好話我喇, 我心靈冇大家所想像中咁堅強的, 比人日膠夜膠真係一d 都唔過隱)
(有時會諗, 我為乜要比烈士膠呢? 係唔係自尋煩惱? 不過一諗起我要愛我身邊既人, 我就會繼續答佢d post 架喇)