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你唔關心﹐可是這裡問你的人大部份都關心實際回報窩﹐呵呵﹐他們當你係指路明燈﹐小心唔好教錯人至好。

你好彩可以找到一隻股票一年賺200%﹐但同時你要準備可能連身家都會蝕埋﹐因為高回報的投資通常都係高風險。 ...
匿名 發表於 2010/1/5 11:06


I never recommend any stocks to anybody here.
I am just interested in discussing general principles and philosophies.
If actual returns is all you care about, go to a church or a Buddhist temple to pray.

Everybody should choose the investments themselves.
If I were a fund manager, all I care is to juice more commissions/fees from my clients.

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If actual returns is all you care about, go to a church or a Buddhist temple to pray.

Everybody should choose the investments themselves.
If I were a fund manager, all I care is to juice more commissions/fees from my clients.快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-1-5 12:24

唔使。。。信你咪得救囉 。。。係架﹐投資之馬﹐係呀﹐係唔使賺錢架

若你做fund manager﹐記得講清楚你響邊間做﹐提醒大家唔好去﹐連接近那區都有危險。   不過﹐人地請你至算啦﹐有機會 interview 話聲比我地知喇。

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If I were a fund manager, all I care is to juice more commissions/fees from my clients.
快樂牛郎 發表於 2010-1-5 11:24

And you were the one who said earlier that banking services charges / investment admin fees were way too high...

So who's the hypocrite here?

-Lik

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And you were the one who said earlier that banking services charges / investment admin fees were way too high...

So who's the hypocrite here?

-Lik
Lik 發表於 2010-1-5 13:37

That's exactly the point he was making. He would not mind making a ton of commission from clients since those fees are so good.

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你唔關心﹐可是這裡問你的人大部份都關心實際回報窩﹐呵呵﹐他們當你係指路明燈﹐小心唔好教錯人至好。

匿名 發表於 2010-1-5 12:06


I don't think you actually understood what he was saying.

he wants to discuss the methodology, attitude, practices and philosophies.  It will help novice investors to help themselves.  Just telling people which stock to pick or which investment to invest is pointless.

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another point he's trying to make is that good/sound methodology, attitude, practices and philosophies don't guarantee 實際回報.

on the other hand even with high 實際回報 doesn't mean that the guy has good/sound methodology, attitude, practices and philosophies.

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For people with less than 20K asset, I usually tell them to stay away from stocks if they know nothing about it.  Human are born to be averse to losses.  It's 3 times more painful to lose $100 than the amount of joy you have when you make $100.  That is, if you actually care about that $100.  Lottery is the complete opposite example but because $2 is almost like nothing to most people and the reward is so out of proportion, people don't mind losing $2 every time they buy a ticket.  This is actually the mindset we should have when we invest in stocks.  Of course I don't put all my eggs into the market.  So if I lose 100% of what I put in, so be it.

For people with more than 20K of asset, you don't gain nothing when you lose a few grands or hundreds of grands.  Hopefully you learn a lesson and this lesson should serve you well in the future.  Some people who got burned in the 2001 crash never bought stocks again.  So they have avoided the latest crash in 2008.

I hope you now see the difference between an individual investor and a fund manager.  A fund manager only cares about the performance of his fund and the actual return.  That's why so many fund managers would rather just mimic the major indices.  There's no incentive to do the right thing for his clients.

There have been some great fund managers in history, like Peter Lynch or George Soros, but they are certainly a rare breed.

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I think before a person invest, he/she needs a mindset that YOU DON"T MIND LOSE ALL OF THOSE $$$$.
Then the person could be more 客觀 in the analysis.

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I think before a person invest, he/she needs a mindset that YOU DON"T MIND LOSE ALL OF THOSE $$$$.
Then the person could be more 客觀 in the analysis.
fibbi 發表於 2010/1/5 15:54


This just echoes what I said in the lottery example.

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39# 快樂牛郎


To me it's a bit difference...Lottery, besides I don't mind losing that $2, I hope to win BIG.
In stock market most people "MIND" the $ they put, and may not necessary want to win BIG. In other words, different expectation.

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