daimo

just my 2 cents.

This article is misleading and using CPR as an example is just poor.  People who are trained will not be swayed by this article, luckily.

Most of the law suits are related to spinal cord or neck injuries when the patients were moved unprofessionally.  For cardiac arrest, if you are CPR trained and if you have the proper tool (the mask - which is needed to protect yourself), then I'll say it's a good call to help.

I have experienced 2 real life experience when someone had cardiac arrest just right in front of my eyes(i weren't trained at that time).  Although ambulances in Canada are quite efficient (~10 mins), in both cases, they were just too late.

Ultraman

救一個人都要諗咁多野? 我寧願好似而家咁不經思索就好了.
我只知道, 人命係最重要, 救人一命勝造七級浮"圖", 我唔明白點解救人都要咁下會唔會對自己有影響... 果d 所謂影響都唔係乜野性命尤關既事.
我重申一點, 如 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-1-25 19:05

I appreciate your value.
I'm just different. Theoretically, all lives worth the same. But to me, my family worth much more than any stranger. Every time I go out, I will try my very best to protect myself in order to go home safe in one piece. If I can't even protect myself, how can I protect my beloved family?!

mcjohnjohn

I appreciate your value.
I'm just different. Theoretically, all lives worth the same. But to me, my family worth much more than any stranger. Every time I go out, I will try my very best to protect  ...
Ultraman 發表於 2010-1-26 14:04

Ultraman, 咁講啦~
舉個例, 就好似見到一個老婆婆o係街上跌左袋橙, 會唔會唔幫佢執呢?
1. d 橙會唔會有毒品? 會唔會幫佢運毒?
2. 個婆婆見到我幫佢執, 會唔會反咬我偷佢d 橙?

一句講哂: 如果做好事(明知對受助人係好既話)都要諗咁多野, 仲乜諗野呀!

fibbi

I think it's just basic instinct. If you know those first aid skill, you will do it...without thinking...

Ultraman

Ultraman, 咁講啦~
舉個例, 就好似見到一個老婆婆o係街上跌左袋橙, 會唔會唔幫佢執呢?
1. d 橙會唔會有毒品? 會唔會幫佢運毒?
2. 個婆婆見到我幫佢執, 會唔會反咬我偷佢d 橙?

一句講哂: 如果做好事(明知對受助人係 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-1-25 22:44

How about some other examples:
1. Homeless people ask me for spare change, I won't give anything to them. Cuz first, I don't want them to use my money to buy drugs; second, I've read news about some kind-hearted people got stabbed and/or got robbed by those bad homeless people at time of giving them money.
2. Hitchhikers want to get on my car, I won't stop nor let them in. I've also read news for kind hearted people got stabbed and/or robbed by bad hitchhikers.

I don't need to think every time when I face each situation. Once my first top priority is my family and I want to go home safe in one piece everyday every time, I already know what I should react in my default mode.

mcjohnjohn

Ultraman, 其實你果兩個case 都唔涉及人命, 都唔係乜野危急既case 啦~
而家既情況, 就好似鐵達尼號沉船咁, 如果你一家人坐左o係一隻救生艇, 而救生艇上有好多空位. 咁arm 比你見到一個人o係水面叫緊救命, 同你隻船好近, 你大可以伸手拉佢上黎. 不過, 你伸手既話就有1%機會整沉隻船, 而你唔伸手既話個遇溺者就100%打柴, 不過, 就算你救佢, 佢都有50%機會失溫而死, 咁你會唔會救佢丫?

我就一定會去救佢law.

Ultraman

Ultraman, 其實你果兩個case 都唔涉及人命, 都唔係乜野危急既case 啦~
而家既情況, 就好似鐵達尼號沉船咁, 如果你一家人坐左o係一隻救生艇, 而救生艇上有好多空位. 咁arm 比你見到一個人o係水面叫緊救命, 同你隻船好 ...
mcjohnjohn 發表於 2010-1-26 07:13

Please make clear of your own example situations.
You quoted 老婆婆o係街上跌左袋橙, it's not 涉及人命 and also not 危急既case. That means, I can decide to help her or not to help her, not a big deal anyways.
My examples, they might not involve other people's lives but surely may affect my own life (can't deny there is a chance), therefore I won't risk it.
For your Titanic example is another scenario, which all of we passengers are in pretty much the same situation. Everybody is facing the same risk.
You may say I think too much. But isn't brain designed to think? If I haven't been thinking/considering that much, I couldn't be still survive till today la.

tofu

My CPR certificate expired already.  
really expired?  i thought it has no expiration date?
i checked the st. john website, and here is what i get.  where do you take yours ar?
When does CPR certification expire?
CPR does not expire but is recommended to be renewed every year.  Workplace requirements may vary in each province.


Also see this...
http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/docum ... 172/00_96172_01.xml
there is a cause on the above article.  "this act is current to Jan 13, 2010".  so what will happen after that date ar?

Not all  Canada's provinces have passed good samaritan act, so it just depends on where you are.

tofu

如果:
1. 自己識救
2. 對自己生命冇危險
truth, but those are the most common areas to make mistakes ar.
you think you know how to do it doesn't mean you knew how to do it
for a normal person, it is hard to judge how safe is the environment

mcjohnjohn

如果:
1. 自己識救
2. 對自己生命冇危險
truth, but those are the most common areas to make mistakes ar.
you think you know how to do it doesn't mean you knew how to do it
for a normal person, it is hard ...
tofu 發表於 2010-1-27 07:43

唉... 總之比著係我就唔會諗咁多啦! 好難做得出見死不救既行為law.
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