rockypath

you assume all the teachers are young?  they all retired at age 30/40? you just make all the assumption. ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-23 16:03

You misunderstood what I said. I said my children are young and they might lack the knowledge, experience and analytical skills to form their own opinions especially on political topics. Therefore, I don't want my children to be influenced by their teachers’ own political views.

Do you agree with what I said after I clarify what I meant?

Regarding the education of citizen’s responsibility to vote, I agree with you that schools should educate students about their duties as a citizen. However, we all know this election is a 變相公投 and it is not a regular election constituted by the law of Hong Kong. It is an election forced by a political alliance to express their own political opinions. The voting had been designated as an action to support or oppose their action.

Whether you as a citizen decide to support their actions or not, it is your own choice. But don’t force your opinion to other people under the name of 公民義務和責任.

rockypath

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It is because they are still young and might still lack the knowledge, experience a ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 16:08

Now I clarify -- "they" represent children not the teachers.

So, do you agree with me now?

By the way, you have yet told us whether you would support the action of Miss Chan.

MAXIMUS

回復 42# rockypath

When did Miss Ng "Force her opinion to other people"
she just asked Mr. Tong a simple question but Mr. Tong
dare not to answer. Mr. Tong went to the school to sell his broken promise, not  
prepared for criticism;  just to prove his low IQ. , ignorance and incompetence.
I think there is Social Study in High School Syllabus in HK,
"Obedience to authority"  is not in the context, it is not the Mainland China.
You lost the debate again, this time defeated by a  young lady
Maybe you can learn from Mr. Tong

MAXIMUS

The school is the top Girls School in HK,
not all the High School Students are simple and naive

MAXIMUS

回復 41# rockypath

"i don't think you really understand the issue.  the teacher teaches her students in the class, citizen is responsible to vote for his/her government.  but the governor told people not to vote this time, so it is a bad example.  you may think this election is stupid and just waste money, but it is still a legit election.  it is nothing to deal with her political view, you come out to vote does not necessary mean you are supporting one party, you are just fulfill your responsibility of a citizen.  so she hoped mr. tong can explain why he didn't fulfill his responsibility."   Quoted from Tofu
   
Seems like you are the one having difficulty  understanding; or lacking patience to read through before responding,
if the SAR were so sure that the by-election was illegal and illegitimate  , they should have banned it in the first place. They funded the election in the light and pulling the leg behind the scene with all the dirty tricks,  that is shameful.  May I borrow your  favourite words:   Hypocrite

rockypath

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When did Miss Ng "Force her opinion to other people"
she just asked Mr. Tong a sim ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 16:34

Before you talk about anything else, just answer my question - "Do you support the action of Miss Chan?"

If you do not support the action of Miss Chan, how would you have the ground to support Miss Ng?

tofu

ok, i understood what you mean, but don't agree to it.  the students are allow to vote when they turn 18 and they are in high school already, which is between 12-18 years old.  it is important for them to learn what is political?  knowledge, experience and analytical skills are things that need to build up.  a good teacher will not influence his students by his own point of view, he will just open the path for his students to think and find the answer by themselves.  if your child really influenced by the teacher, it means you are not a good parent.  education is not only at school.  if you have an opposite idea of your child's teacher, you child should do more research find out which side does he buy.    if your child knows nothing about political, they will just being use as a tool.

this is not a regular election, but it is a legit election.  if you don't like this election, vote for an opposite party or make an invalid vote.  inorder to let them know this is a bad idea.  come back to the real world, "變相" happen all the times.  
hst is a 變相 increased tax rate, we don't tell everyone not to pay it or collect it.  we go though legal process to stop it.  

"""Whether you as a citizen decide to support their actions or not, it is your own choice. """
but the governor told the public that all the dept heads are not going to vote is more than a personal choice already.  it will also give pressure to all government's employee, not to vote.

MAXIMUS

回復 46# rockypath

When did I say that I would not support Miss Chan's action?
trying to put words in my mouth again?
Just to remind you that HK, at this date, is still a SAR,
people are allowed to express themselves positively
or adversely,  without fear of consequences,愚忠並非愛國唯一行動,Color
now we protest against HST, can you say that we betray Canada?
No, we are exercising our constitution right,
only the CCP would rips its own constitution
You lost  multiple times to ladies already, how does it feel?

rockypath

ok, i understood what you mean, but don't agree to it.  the students are allow to vote when they tur ...
tofu 發表於 2010-5-23 17:15

First, teaching the political knowledge is different from influencing the students with personal political view. It is important to teach students a full spectrum of knowledge and give them the skills how to analyze an issue and examine different opinions but not just accept the opinions that imposed by their teachers.

Second, do you know this 變相公投 has no opposition? Could you tell me how would I be able to say “NO” to against變相公投行動 other than not vote since any vote (include blank votes and votes to another person who does not be long to 公民兩黨) will be counted as supports to their action.

I will be waiting for your answer to tell me what I can do if I want to say no to this 變相公投行動 other than not voting.

rockypath

回復  rockypath

When did I say that I would not support Miss Chan's action?
trying to put words in ...
MAXIMUS 發表於 2010-5-23 17:31

Just tell me whether you would support the action of Miss Chan.  "Yes" or "No".