shutterbug

lol.. Gun shooting & gang problem cannot be solved by putting more money..

Come on.. face the truth of our cops... the more money dump into this group of morons, the less seat we can find in Tim Horl ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2009-5-13 16:12

Who doesn't know mother is a female?  Changing the "justice/law environment" cannot happen overnight.  Hiring more police will have an effect (big or small) immediately.  You think politicians are dumb?

Anyway, I think our police to population is dropping so adding some makes sense.  Whether they're efficient in fighting crime, that's another complex area.

Interesting read
http://www.primetimecrime.com/co ... 0505Wickstead01.htm

rainbow-davie

somewhereintime 8#

i think you misunderstood, i just mean "why not" campbell again.

btw, lower education fee has pro/con.  few years ago, the price for post grad. program is only 50% of what it is n ...
tofu 發表於 2009-5-13 16:14

agree.. like in the NDP era, the tuition fee is so low.. however, it takes way longer time to graduate.. u know. time = money.. especially in teenage.   the good thing is, I have more times to hang out with fds and more time to play. LOL

i think tuition fee now is okay. but we need more programs ( scholarship..etc) to help the "HARD WORKING" student who cannot afford the tuition fee.

May be something like the 'stamps' in highschool.. whoever get an A, receive $500 credit. B $50.. C no money.   so, it is also an incentive for students to study hard, instead of chase girl hard or play wii hard.

sheep

agree.. like in the NDP era, the tuition fee is so low.. however, it takes way longer time to graduate.. u know. time = money.. especially in teenage.   the good thing is, I have more times to hang  ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2009-5-13 16:40

But it is their parents to pay for the fees. They won't border

BiscottiGelato

agree.. like in the NDP era, the tuition fee is so low.. however, it takes way longer time to graduate.. u know. time = money.. especially in teenage.   the good thing is, I have more times to hang  ...
rainbow-davie 發表於 2009-5-13 15:40

More programs? Why not attack it the right way and create more jobs, by attracting more investments and businesses? The students can repay their loans this way then, no?

A lot of people have the wrong approach to university anyways. University is, more or less, just a tool to make $. A lot of people just wander in with a huge student loan because 'you must go into university' and come out starving because they have no clue what they are trying to achieve from uni. No program can help someone who made a wrong choice in life, can it? To make it worse the loan amount is so great that it became a non-self repaying loan, as they are spent on extras like a new ipod or a new notebook....

More jobs, less student loan, more scholarship might actually ease this situation more...

BiscottiGelato

21# somewhereintime




I have a big doubt about this.  Many people were living happily before 86 and making a living.  Houses were cheap, people have jobs.  Although they were not making big bucks, ...
shutterbug 發表於 2009-5-13 11:45

There's a cut back only because the spending spree was way overdone before. The cutback will have to be even stronger in order to bring things back to a sustainable level. Imagine you make 5k a month and you spent 10k this month. You'd have to cut back a lot the subsequent monthes in order to go back into a sustainable spending pattern? In fact by overspending 5k this one month, you'd probably have to cut back 1k for the next 5 monthes, the effect is far reaching. If anything, blame the NDP.

I believe the property tax and the parking taxes are by the municiple government anyways? Property tax hike is primarily due to land valuation going WAY UP anyways.

On Carbon Tax... do you know what this is for at all? Yes it definately generates revenue, but that's definately not the primary purpose of a Carbon Tax... If anything, this is one tax I don't mind to pay if it achieves the effect of making people pay for (& thus reduce) the natural resource they burn and the air they pollute. Both the Liberal and the NDP have a revenue generating method to control carbon emission anyways. I don't see this as an extra tax which the Liberal have put on it's people, not over of what the NDP is proposing anyways. I'll leave the argument between Carbon Tax vs Cap N Trade outside of this thread for now.

IMO, NDP basically represent spending tomorrows money today. Regardless of the specific policies, as long as they are sticking by this model, it will be unsustainable and will drive us to the ground. This is especially true as the next 20 years will be nothing like the last 20 years. Achieving sustainable growth, both in terms of the economy and on preserving nature, is going ot be what the future is going to be about. Liberal of course, like all government is not perfect and would always be in fact far from perfect, but I'll definately not gamble with the NDP in leading us through such a future.

shutterbug

NDP could be over spending before I have no objection about that.  However, do you think Liberals has cut back far too deep causing many social tension and issues?  Remember how Gord proposed to give his fellows a raise of more than 40% while the inflation rate is only about 2-3%?  Both parties need to find the balance in funding and efficiency!

If the provincial is cutting back on the money given to the city, is this a provincial or municipal problem?  I don't agree that municipal should rely on provincial funding but money has to come from somewhere somehow, hence parking tax.

peter236

""" Most people view the economy is much more important than other things such as health care, child care, crime fighting, etc?"""
because most of us are came from a country which is more concern abou ...
tofu 發表於 2009-5-13 16:29

The economy is important because the government needs money to pay for health care, child care and education etc. With money, you can spend it on whatever you want.

rainbow-davie

More programs? Why not attack it the right way and create more jobs, by attracting more investments and businesses? The students can repay their loans this way then, no?

A lot of people have the wr ...
BiscottiGelato 發表於 2009-5-13 18:09

I should clarify.. i mean financial program.

rainbow-davie

NDP could be over spending before I have no objection about that.  However, do you think Liberals has cut back far too deep causing many social tension and issues?  Remember how Gord proposed to give  ...
shutterbug 發表於 2009-5-13 20:06

there is something I observer.. please correct me if I'm wrong.
I remember, during NDP era, there were a lot of strike,etc  even more tension with Unions.  and some Unions get big bucks (e.g. BC ferries)..
HOwever, in these 8 years, I feel that there were much less strike.  hmmm

if that's right, then what did it imply?

somewhereintime

""" Most people view the economy is much more important than other things such as health care, child care, crime fighting, etc?"""
because most of us are came from a country which is more concern abou ...
tofu 發表於 2009-5-13 15:29

I was born in China, lived 20 years in HK & Macau before immigrating here in 1977, with no spare money and 3 siblings  going to school. I used to work 2 full-time and 1 part-time job, over 100 hours a week, I never collect EI or welfare, so there is something I missed out being a Canadian. I just cannot understand why people could be so depending and inflexible. Time changes and so must people, Canadian cannot just rely on the government to provide all their needs. We need to motivate people to work harder to build a better future for next generation.